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Accused thief captured after car chase in Lancaster

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Danny Carson, 37, of Lancaster was arrested on suspicion of being under the influence of drugs, evading and outstanding felony warrants for burglary and vehicle theft, Sheriff’s officials said. (Photo by JOHN MEZA)
Danny Carson, 37, of Lancaster was arrested on suspicion of being under the influence of drugs, evading and outstanding felony warrants for burglary and vehicle theft, Sheriff’s officials said. (Photo by JOHN MEZA)
The car chase ended near Date Avenue and Oldfield Street after Carson rounded a corner and crashed into two parked cars. (JOHN MEZA)
The car chase ended near Date Avenue and Oldfield Street after Carson rounded a corner and crashed into two parked cars. (JOHN MEZA)

LANCASTER – A 37-year-old Lancaster man with outstanding felony warrants for burglary and vehicle theft was captured Friday evening, after leading deputies on a mile-long car chase in Lancaster, authorities said.

After a violent struggle with deputies, Danny Carson was arrested near Date Avenue and Oldfield Street, according to Sheriff’s officials.

“The suspect resisted arrest and he had to be taken down to the ground,” said Sgt. Steve Owen of the Lancaster Sheriff’s Station.

The incident started around 5:45 p.m. when deputies spotted a white Saturn being driven recklessly, Owen said.

Carson resisted and was "taken down to the ground," Sgt. Owen said. (JOHN MEZA)
Carson resisted and was “taken down to the ground,” Sgt. Owen said. (JOHN MEZA)

“They also noticed some other equipment violations with that vehicle and that the vehicle had a stolen or false year tab on it,” Owen said.

“The deputies conducted a traffic stop, and the suspect made several furtive movements; and as the deputies approached the suspect’s vehicle… the suspect took off,” Owen continued.

Deputies chased the white Saturn for about a mile through residential neighborhoods, and during the pursuit, “the suspect discarded what we believed to be methamphetamine out the driver’s window,” Owen said.

Witnesses at the scene said several liquor bottles were removed the white Saturn. (JOHN MEZA)
Witnesses at the scene said several liquor bottles were removed from the white Saturn. (JOHN MEZA)

The chase ended near Date Avenue and Oldfield Street when the Saturn careened around a corner and crashed into two parked vehicles.

Carson was arrested on suspicion of being under the influence of drugs, evading and the outstanding felony warrants for burglary and vehicle theft, Sheriff’s officials said.

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70 comments for "Accused thief captured after car chase in Lancaster"

  1. People are so naive . We love you danny carson . The cops in the a.v are pretty bad and yes i do like cops, but not ones out here . When you do need their help they dont show up for hours upon hours.u Probably becaue theyre off beating someone when its not necessary.

  2. Unbelievable comments. Lets look at this poor misunderstood man. WANTED: Vehicle Theft- That was probably someones livelihood and caused heartache to the owner. Not to mention, a huge financial burden they probably can’t afford. WANTED: Burglary- Anyone who’s ever been burglarized knows that feeling of EXTREME VIOLATION that someone was in your home going through your things and taking what you worked hard for. That feeling doesn’t ever go away. WANTED: Felong Evading- I’ll just rocket through town in a 60mph, 3,000 lbs bullet and hope everyone gets out of my way, ooppps, I smashed up 2 other peoples cars who will be left with the burden of paying for my F-ups! WANTED: Resisting Arrest with Violence- It’s these deputies job to arrest me, but let me try to hurt them and ruin their lives by blowing out their knee, cracking a vertebra, knocking one out so I can take his gun and kill him. That way, the deputies family can be fatherless/husbandless just for wanting to be a Public Servant and help people.

    I sure am glad there’s alot of these liberal idiots who believe it’s not my fault and I’m not that bad. I’ve only made about a 1,000 VICTIMS that the Sheriff doesn’t even know about!

    But thanks to those liberals, this PoS will only be off the streets for less than 1 year. Why you ask? Just look towards our Democratic Governor who’s about to sign another bill reducing crimes like, “Grand Theft, Forgery, & Receiving Stolen Property” into simple Misdemeanor’s so No One actually does any jail time!

    • First off “ive seen it all” him being WANTED for vehicle theft was incorrect. He didn’t take anyones car. The owner of it was there at the scene less than 5 minutes after the crash speaking to the officer’s about how she allowed him to use it 10 minutes before the crash. WANTED. Of burglary another false sstatement he was never inside of someones home or taken anything from the property. RESISTING ARREST false and funny for he stopped hand his hands in the air when our great lancaster police grabbed him tossed him on the ground as they kept smashing his face on the sidewalk. FELONY EVADING. That we will have to wait and see. But otherwise 90% of the charges are false or incorrect. So to those of you that believe everything the media says wow you are an idiot. An for the fact that people that truly only hurting themselves not these so called “victims” end up doing years sometimes decades while child molester, murderers, pieces of sh** do little to no jail time at all. So some people need to get the facts before speaking on things they have no clue about..

      • Did the owner of the car explain how a stolen year sticker jumped onto the licence plate? Then reckless driving while evading police! That alone is enough to get your face into the pavement. They both should be arrested. And you should help your brother with his drug problem before going on about how misunderstood he is.

      • yes, everyone is always innocent and it is always the cops fault. They made him speed through town. What if he hit a kid instead of cars. Sorry, no excuse. Sorry your brother is a dumb a$$

      • Obviously, you don’t pay attention worth a damn. The article says he HAD WARRANTS FOR GRAND THEFT AUTO AND BURGLARY. Warrants get put in the system for past crimes investigated. Then, they take that evidence before a Judge and ask for an ARREST WARRANT based on that evidence. Obviously, the Judge felt there was enough evidence to sign both arrest warrants for him.

        Before the chase even began, he was wanted on 2 separate felony crimes, hence the warrants. Thats great that you love your brother but think before you speak.

        • Obviously you pay no attention. If thw article was incorrect his warrant was not for vehicle theft yoy idiot his warrants were for burglary and possession of a dirk or dagger. So who should think befote they speak?

  3. From what I understand, it is no longer “TO SERVE AND PROTECT”. PROTECT is removed! Look at their cars. It no longer states that. You have to have the common sense to know how to protect yourselves. There are classes and the police dept will educate you. We don’t have enough police up here and they can’t be in two places at once.

    I’ve never heard so much belly aching and whining as from people in the AV. Educate yourselves.

    • The Los Angeles County Sheriff motto is “A Tradition of Service
      Since 1850”

      The Los Angeles Police Department motto is “To Protect and Serve”

      Like you said, not enough officers to deal with all of the usual stuff that happens.

  4. Wow here we go again and yes the police out here do beat these guys when they r already handcuffed. That’s pure shot I had a dectective tell me yes they have a lot of them out here but there not all like that. Not one should be able to beat a handcuffed suspect just cause they r mad. Can’t handle the job get out period.

  5. decisions are made everyday…when someone is under the influence of a chemical…whether he/she is addicted or not, that person is making an altered decision…anyone that has an authority wanting to get involved in their situation has to make a decision…the right decision is to communicate with the authority, at which time that authority will assess the situation and determine how the situation should be handled…when someone does not want to communicate with an authority, that person has made a decision that has been influenced by the chemical, and therefor does not want to interact with any authority, making bad decisions and consequently even worse reactions…their actions have literally been predetermined based on their mindset…

    this guy Danny is probably a very good guy with the best of intentions, when he is not under the influence of a chemical…but the fact is he made a bad decision…without regard to himself…so now he faces consequences based on his reaction to the situation…a situation that would have never occurred had he been doing the right thing…

    hopefully he finds the ability to confront himself, who is in fact his own worst enemy…not the cops…not society…not enemies…but himself…and wakes up…realizing there are ways to avoid confrontation with authorities…

    if not…then he has to look forward to is what happened to him…over and over…

  7. First and foremost 80% of these charges are bogus. . The article isnt even right. I heard the sirens and went outside when i saw tge car go by and the police chasing behind. It wasnt more than 2 minutes from than when i made it to where the crash happened. How in the world did 24 police vehicles get there so fast? “If he was bleeding due to the crash why would they refuse him medical attention? (Cause they beat him) Why wasn’t there a blood trail from the car to the side walk. Were he stood with his hands up? Why is it when asking tge police for their names they cover them and walk away? Why did it takehoyrs to book him? They didnt take him to the hospital. I would like to know why these things were done to my brother.

    • Wow your brother is an idiot, they should of of beat him but they didn’t. Why does everyone hate the cop’s until they need one. If you don’t want to be treated like a criminal then don’t act like one.

      Hope he stays locked up forever

      • Hello? !??!!!! They did beat him u iilliterate moron. He surrendered and everyone around saw what they did to him he wasnt armed or resisting. So get your facts straight

    • Because he is a loser!!! Deserves to be in jail after placing the lives of innocent people at risk! Were you the one that ran out to get his meth after he threw it out the window?

  8. This is a very good friend of mine he may have a drug problem but its not hurting anyone but himself our sheriffs in this valley and highway patrol have been getting away with assualt after assualt which is violence against non violent addicts which if you knew that if you pulled over for an authoritie and knew that they would assualt you a steriod freak with a gun baton and sometimes a dog and in multiples you would run for your life also sheriffs are not supposed to pit manuever or exceed 35 miles per hour in a residential area these cops are the threat to the public not nonviolent drug addicts. I called the station 3 times looking for the suspect 3 hours after his arrest and was lied to because the cops knew they had f’d up and didnt know what to do with him thats scary that they can do that cause thier thoughts were should we drop him off at a hospital in another county proceed with the arrest or dispose of the body (not far fetched at all) I know someone they had battered beyond recognition and dropped him off in another county that was nice of them seriously, I myself have been threatened to be taken out to the desert spit on verbally abused and ruffed up as a minor by our senior local officers and hadn’t even committed a crime when I was 22 deputy Ellis had planted methaphatimeon my persons which I served 2 years for Deputy Ellis had been forced to resign not to long ago cause someone finally took the correct actions after being set up by him this is real people and the more we let the cops who are estranged in the head get away the worse it will get they need pyschilogical help quit being close minded cause it will be you next

        • These chases always endanger everyone on the street. My advice is just pull over & STOP risking our lives. Drug use is NOT a victimless crime. They commit property crimes to pay for the drugs. The property crimes have victims on the other end.

      • Woof woof woof….just when you tell yourself people cant surprise you anymore you read a bunch of useless comments full of attempted witty sarcasm and demeaning comments. Of course those individuals are complete and total all law abiding citizens, you know the ones that don’t even get speeding or jaywalking tickets. However, speaking as someone who actually knows danny…..you high and mighty pieces of [removed] can say any and everything you want until your tiny heads pop because its all nothing but comedy and entertainment. None of you “saints” in life could ever know a man like danny. Oh wait now let me guess…..” I wouldn’t have a theif n blah blah blah as anyone in my life, [removed] that Im far to good to associate with such scum” etc. Right? Keep your noses in the air and if possible out of things/situations you know NOTHING about. I am av born and raised so save the rest of the obvious slander and “mean” remarks for some other time, you aren’t offending anyone, I realize how far n fast the av is falling. You wonderful angels who talk so tough about tweakers and criminals are who drag the av down like a [removed] ball n chain. Try doing for or offering help to someone you decide is below yourself instead of trying to push them in the mud. Huh, maybe this place wouldn’t be so ugly and scandalous….maybe your material crap wouldn’t get stolen or smashed. That’s the man danny is….need help, he won’t think to hesitate to do anything necessary for a person to be okay or he cares when someone is doing badly in life and tries to help n offers damn near everything that’s his so the next guy is better off. Now I’m done proceed with the negativity……..

        • So it isn’t the drug addicts and scum bringing down the AV, but the hard-working, law abiding citizens? Give me a break. Why must it be OUR fault when OUR things get stolen/a life gets taken, when it’s the fault of your friends like “Danny”. If you were a true friend you’d try and get him off of the hard drugs he’s using so he can be a functional member of society and not steal people’s things and put lives in danger.

        • How many times has Danny been offered the chance to help himself? He hasn’t seemed to take advantage of these opportunities. And you, his “friend.” You can make excuses for his bad behavior and advert the blame elsewhere, but what a hypocrite to say that WE aren’t doing enough for poor ol’ Danny. Old sayings get to be old sayings because they withstand the test of time. You can lead a horse to water, but …You can’t make Danny do anything. Danny will continue to be Danny; someone who will provoke people to have to stand up for him, time after time, while he continues his nefarious behavior. This will continue until Danny has the will to stop, and someone with influence with Danny has the courage and moral compass to stop him. The blame-game is getting old.

    • Thank you for speaking up Thomas. As a female who grew up in the AV; it wasn’t until I moved out of state that I came to realize not all cops are bad. While I was a AV resident I was pulled over for minor insignificant reasons and sexually harrassed on a number of occassions. I grew up believing it must be me, I must have always done something to “ask for it”. So I never reported any of the abuse in power. It wasn’t until it began to affect my life on more deeper levels that I decided to move away. As I learned to live in a new city and new state with a different community entirely, I learned that cops are good, helpful and willing to protect. My experience with the AV law enforcement was so bad I was led to believe all were the same when in fact they are not.
      Changes do need to be made, in the meantime, the community does need to be mindful.
      All the best to both sides of the spectrum.

    • Really, he’s not hurting any body? The people who’s cars he hit, that only effected him. NO excuse. If you are his friend you should have helped him with his drug problem, but instead you are probably doing them with him. And the booking process can take hours.

      • Your Clueless, don’t be upset. That’s what drug addicts say. Understand Thomas for what he is. Encourage him to get help and find a friend who will steer him in the right direction for a change.

    • “The (person) doth protest too much, methinks.” -William Shakespeare. I thought that several things in your diatribe sounded amiss. So, I did a little research. It will, no doubt, warm your heart to know that Deputy Ellis is alive and well, promoted, and working as a detective at Lancaster Station. Finding this out took almost no effort at all. You on the other hand, took a little more effort to find. It appears that Deputy Ellis did arrest you in 2005 for possession of a controlled substance, but this was not your first arrest for this charge. Additionally, his arrest didn’t send you to state prison, it was your 3 probation violations. I suppose I can get past you blurting out a bunch of non-sense you heard through the “meth-vine,” but to tell readers that you “hadn’t even committed a crime” makes you a liar. I figure your comment was meant to rally the people who run in your same circles, and/or draw sympathy for Danny. I hope it does neither. I’m sure that if I did a little more research about you, Danny, and the others who seem to be so quick to support him, that we would all have to endure pages of excuses for bad behavior. Two words of advise: tell the truth; use the spell-check.

  9. Hey D.C thats bizarre. Hope youre alright and see you soon love you DC we’re family dont know if youll see this but stay up

  10. Anyone that can risks the publics lives by running from Police and crashing into cars should be executed on the spot. He could have ran over an innocent person or even worse a puppy.

  11. i wonder who the heck some of you self righteous think you are? Day after day passing judgement and even passing sentence some even to the death penalty on someone you never even met.And what exactly was his crime ? Child molest? No! Did he murder his girlfriends baby? No !!! He was driving a bit reckless, did they say he had drugs on him? No ,the quote was… “the suspect discarded what we believed to be methamphetamine out the driver’s window,” Owen said.what they believe? really then why isnt it mentioned in this statement..”Carson was arrested on suspicion of being under the influence of drugs, evading and the outstanding felony warrants for burglary and vehicle theft, Sheriff’s officials said. Suspicion of being under the influence…SUSPICION!!! what made them suspect that , a finger on his wrist to count heartbeats, his heart was probably racing considering the wreck and the lasd boots to the head he had just received even though his hand were up and he was clearly saying i give i give and why no possession of this possible meth? huh well if they just beat him up and stomped his head in for reckless driving that wouldn’t sit to well with the righteous citizens here now would it? you call him a drug addict probably as you perfect hypocrites look over the rim of your glass of whisky while you wait for your Norco or xanax to kick in. Bet your smug self wouldn’t say that if it was you or your loved one all bloody because you surrendered to the cops.But you are so perfect you all can judge any one go refill your pills and get drunk maybe you too can get your run in with the cops and they will stomp your head in and then please just go and consume feces and expire.

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    • and by the way he didn’t careen around the corner into another car the cops pit maneuvered him causing him to wreck so if he had hit a KID or a PUPPY it would have been the cops fault they aren’t supposed to do that in a residential neighborhood, but then again they aren’t supposed to stomp out a person who is not combative and they do frequently

      • You’re an idiot. The cops do what they have to do to keep our streets safe for us. If he was on any drug, I feel bad for him that he feels he needs it. He should have stayed home, off the streets. The ones I hate are the dealers, not the users. The dealers are potential murderers and they should be executed because they are ultimately the killers.

    • Lol [removed] support fellow [removed]. Because the criminal scum is a “friend” or “bro” to someone all of a sudden means his actions are defensible. He clearly is a career criminal with no benefit to the public. Lock this piece of [removed] up. And I know this pathetic life lover’s friends defend him by making up or insunuating wrong doing by the cops in apprehending this moron who took off and was resisting arrest. If he happened to get a boot on his neck then good :). He deserves a lot worse.

  12. i wonder who the heck some of you self righteous think you are? Day after day passing judgement and even passing sentence some even to the death penalty on someone you never even met.And what exactly was his crime ? Child molest? No! Did he murder his girlfriends baby? No !!! He was driving a bit reckless, did they say he had drugs on him? No ,the quote was… “the suspect discarded what we believed to be methamphetamine out the driver’s window,” Owen said.what they believe? really then why isnt it mentioned in this statement..”Carson was arrested on suspicion of being under the influence of drugs, evading and the outstanding felony warrants for burglary and vehicle theft, Sheriff’s officials said. Suspicion of being under the influence…SUSPICION!!! what made them suspect that , a finger on his wrist to count heartbeats, his heart was probably racing considering the wreck and the lasd boots to the head he had just received even though his hand were up and he was clearly saying i give i give and why no possesion of this possible meth? huh well if they just beat him up and stomped his head in for reckless driving that wouldnt sit to well with the righteous citizens here now would it? you call him a drug addict probably as you perfect hypocrites look over the rim of your glass of whisky while you wait for your Norco or xanax to kick in. Bet your smug self wouldnt say that if it was you or your loved one all bloody because you surrendered to the cops.But you are so perfect you all can judge any one go refill your pills and get drunk maybe you too can get your run in with the cops and they will stomp your head in and then please just go and consume fecies and expire.

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  13. This was in front of our house and yes the cops did beat the [removed] out of the guy…. I completely agree you break the law go to jail. But it’s the cops job to serve and protect not serve protect then beat the suspect up who wasn’t resisting and then have the comments they did along with leaving the blood for someone to walk on or a kid to touch and the bloody gloves in my front yard that’s a bit much!

    • Being married to a cop, I’ve heard horrendous stories of what they deal with with people on drugs. Sometimes it’s necessary for them to be rough to control the perp. If you comply, do as you’re told, you won’t get beaten. And don’t mouth off. The cops adrenaline is up in these situations, so watch out!

    • If you would have seen the way the police did him! And it was 24 cop cars out their, and they smash his head in the ground, an d the told him not to move and then some more cops came up, I’ve never seen no shit like this before!

    • Sadly when I let a Sgt. Know hey these two cops beat this guy her answer was he got what he deserved they have been chasing him for three minutes prior to the crash. Then if he hit one of your kids.or had a gun he would have deserved it to basically! Speaking to her I was shocked on how unprofessional the whole conversation was. It’s sad.

    • Then not to mention when we were able to leave we left and came back and they left their bloody gloves in my front yard and street in front of my house and the blood on the side walk. We called and the watch commander said they have other things to do that they really don’t clean it up. But if we would clean the sidewalk they would come get the gloves. So we were out there cleaning the blood and they came to get the gloves. He continued to tell us about the guy and his rap sheet which doesn’t concern us. Then told us to be careful they live around here and they aren’t good people. Then come about 4 am and IAB came shining there lights and came to talk to us and asked about the security camera on the house. Then a few hours later we had the sheriff banging on the door about the camera it’s crazy how much we have been disturbed and we are a bystander not by choice.

      • Protest over a police shooting…? Not a chance. He doesn’t fit the profile for a high media protest and platform for the Sharpton Machine to roar into town demanding justice … He’s white.

    • wow vivian shoot him for what? these police killed enough people out here he dont deserve to be shot just for evading them police or not following orders he didnt have a gun or was not threating them police with one!!!! the police shouldnt of been chasing him either in a residental area not safe what so ever cause look at the out come from that to inncent peoples cars got crashed into pedestrians could of been hurt. this town is so small there shouldnt be allowed high speed pursuits allowed period !SAD

      • Had the cops not chased him, you would be the first person to start screaming, “Where were the cops?” “Why did the cops not stop him…? “The cops are worthless!” Blah blah blah blah…. I’m sick and tired of worthless humans being defended by you liberal minded, tree hugging idiots. If it were up to me, I’d prefer for the cops to arrest all these criminals and I’d pray the courts lock them up for a long time. Let me ask you, if a scum bag like the one picture above had killed or raped one of your family members, and then fled from the police, would you want the cops to not pursue because this town is too small?

      • @ fromtheav – Name 1 person or reference one event where the ‘police’ murdered someone here in the AV. Remember the definition of homicide too when citing your one example. I can recall several shootings and murders in the last 2 years and none of the individuals responsible were employed as cops – In fact, most of the ‘murderers’ weren’t employed at all. Back up your statements with factual proof. Just for clarification, I’m not questioning Mr. Carson’s guilt or treatment or attacking/judging him, this is an off topic question directed at you. So again, give us just one case where the police committed homicide out here. What’s sad is you belittle the cops but you’re no doubt the typical breed of flip-flop smack talker. The first to talk crap about the cops and how they shouldn’t be allowed to chase, arrest, detain, talk or even look at people – but if you were the victim of a crime you’d be on here demanding justice and screaming to know why the ‘police’ don’t do enough – In fact you’d probably be encouraging them to shoot someone that did you wrong. Until then, the cops are murderers though, right? Look up homicide and then study the word ‘hypocrisy’ – Then present one example of these murders you speak of.

        • FIRST OFF I WOULD NEVER WANT SOME ONE TO BE SHOT BUT HERE IS ONE PERSON THEY SHOT AND KILLED BECAUS EHE REACHED TO HIS “”WAIST BAND”” BUT YET DID NOT HAVE A GUN WHAT SO EVER ….. SO WTF THEY SHOOT HIM FOR HE WAS NO BODY BAD HE WAS MY NIEGHBOR!!!!!!!!!!! SO THERES YOUR EVIDENCE !!
          Suspect killed in Lancaster deputy shooting
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          One man was killed and another was taken into custody following a deputy-involved shooting in Lancaster on Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012.
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          LANCASTER, Calif. —
          A young man was shot and killed by sheriff’s deputies in Lancaster following a traffic violation.

          The incident happened shortly before 11 p.m. Saturday at 10th Street West and West Avenue J-4.

          Investigators said deputies from the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department’s Lancaster station attempted to stop a man for a bicycle traffic violation. Deputies said he was riding his bike without a headlight in a dimly lit area.

          The suspect, identified by family members as 26-year-old Christian Cobian, allegedly ignored deputies’ commands to stop and a chase on foot ensued. Deputies have yet to confirm the identity of the suspect.

          Authorities said the suspect reached for his waistband. Sheriff’s officials said the deputies feared for their safety and shot the man.

          No deputies were injured.

          The man was shot and pronounced dead at the scene. Neighbors said they heard several shots fired.

          A second person at the scene was taken into custody, but was later released because he had nothing to do with the incident.

          Cobian’s mother, Carmen Cobian told Eyewitness News that she loved her son very much and does not understand why deputies shot and killed him. She said her son would never carry a gun or hurt anyone.

          Sheriff’s officials confirmed that no weapons were recovered from the scene.

          Other family members, including Christian Cobian’s younger sister and cousin, gathered at the scene of the shooting Sunday morning, some sobbing uncontrollably.

          In a press release sent Sunday afternoon, sheriff’s officials said their suspect was wanted for an Inglewood felony narcotics warrant. He was on probation for the felony crime of receiving stolen property and also had three felony convictions on his record. Deputies said he was an Inglewood gang member who had recently moved to Lancaster.

          Deputies said if the suspect was caught, no bail amount would have been permitted for his release.

          The deputies’ use of deadly force was under investigation by the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department, the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office and the Office of Independent Review.

          • Your neighbor appears to have made a few bad choices which led to his death.
            1. Not being smart on a bicycle – really minor and if he had just stopped to talk to the officers politely most likely he could have avoided even getting a ticket. Unless of course he had priors and was known.

            2. Running from the officers – dumb move. To an officer that means you have something to hide and could be a threat. It gets them amped up since they now have to chase.

            3. Placing hands anywhere near anything other than the sky with an amped up officer in pursuit. Especially in a dimly lit area. He may have been trying to pull up his pants (I always tell people drooped pants are a pain when running) but the officer already in the chase sees a potential threat.

            It would be great if officers chose to fire less often or use less than lethal choices. But bad things would still happen, based on a person’s choices.

          • Sorry – Not murder. Unfortunate: Yes – Murder: No. A justified Homicide. He ran from the cops and then kept going for his waistband. He failed to comply with repeated orders to not reach into his waistband – This isn’t an example of murder. It debunks your previous claims. Yes, absolutely there are prob some cops up here that shouldn’t be employed as such – That’s in every Police Dept – You can rest assured they don’t last long because the majority of the cops are honest and have heart and a personal value system and despise dirty cops – When one of their own is dirty it’s a betrayal that goes beyond personal. Worry about the thugs and criminals killing people for their wallets and robbing people without remorse – They don’t fire warning shots or give their victims second chances.

    • Another day in the sewer? Funny you would point that out john but only rats live in sewers and its funny how that name john keeps poppin up whenever theres a scene underway. Way out stay in your feces filled hole with all the other wieenies .

    • I agree. It’s no place to raise a family!

      Say what××××….do you not have the sense to put an intelligent comment. I guess not!!!

    • Electric chair for smoked out klepto im not sayin what he did was righ but what about sober child molesters murderers and rapists that get a slap on the wrist and left in society but let’s give the tweeker life in prison while some sic [removed] is out touchin kids its people like u that are the reason our judicial system is so [removed] drug users can be help and often right their wrongs but u can not take back what happened to or change the.memory of a sexual assault victim they cant sleep at night how can u

      • i AGREE ITS SAD HOW THEY TREAT DRUG USERS , i AM AN RECOVERY ADDICT AND ITS A DISEASE THAT MANY PEOPLE NEED HELP NOT JAIL rAPIST, MURDURS AND CHILD MOLESTERS AINT A DISEASE SO ITS SAD HOW YOU PEOPLE TALK DOWN ON PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS GET EDUCATED ON THIS LIFE LONG DISEASE …..PLASE!

        • Kudos to you. People who don’t undetstand addiction are always fast to assume and judge. For some one to say an addict needs to die is simply an act of ignorance. Does this man deserve punishment??? Absolutely! !! He broke the law and must now pay. But saying he deserves death because he uses is just STUPID.

        • Drug addicts have no pity coming their way from me! It’s your damn fault you got into drugs in the first place. Addicts don’t have a “disease,” they simply suffer the consequences of their stupid decisions! Cancer is a disease, addiction is your stupidity! All these programs addicts have to help them “recover” have an extremely low success rate. Why, because addicts don’t need help to get off the drugs, addicts need to man up and make the decision to stop on their own, period!

          • TO The Realist, if you were a person of matter, your followers would be just as STUPID AS You Are. Drug Addiction is a Disease!!!! You Moron. So many people are quit to judge others, without knowing anything about them, I pity you for your simple minded Thoughts. I hope you have no children, For Haven for bid one would end up like this man. I believe in the Law, I don’t believe the cops have the right to do as they please out here in AV, People need to worry about the child molesters, and Rapists, who upon release are given a place to live, and your worried about someone on drugs. I know a lot of these people who are release from prison, are given no help. But Hay let them Rape our children, woman, give them money a place to live. Drug users are put back into the same county their crime was done, and then give them No Help. So You Stupidity shows want a Moron You Are.

        • Why did you go on them in the first place? I don’t feel sorry for you. If you were depressed or?, you should have seen a physician to get help.

          My son was introduced to a drug, and thankfully he got off of it before it did damage.

          • Drug addiction shares many features with other chronic illnesses, including a tendency to run in families (heritability), an onset and course that is influenced by environmental conditions and behavior, and the ability to respond to appropriate treatment, which may include long-term lifestyle modification.1
            Addiction is a chronic disease similar to other chronic diseases such as type II diabetes, cancer, and cardiovascular disease.

            Human studies of addictive behaviors have clearly implicated both environmental and genetic influences, as well as interactions between the two. While genetics play a major role in defining who we are, the environment in which we are raised is just as influential.

            YOUR SON WAS JUST FORTUNATE ENOUGH

          • So naive. Watch you eat your words when you realize, “once an addict always an addict”, and that your son is probably using in the closet right now, havinf such a closed minded parent. No wonder your kid started using in the first place.

        • He wasn’t arrested for being an addict. It was all of those unfortunate side effects of addition that he was arrested for. Prop 36 if he qualifies – A rough detox when he does his lick in state if he doesn’t – Either way I’m sure he’s a totally different person when he’s straight but when you play with the glass piper you eventually have to pay the piper.