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UPDATED: Man kills grandson, self at Palmdale home

by The AV Times Staff • May 14, 2014

The incident happened Wednesday, May 14 at a home in the 37800 Block of 29th Street East in Palmdale. (Photo by LUIS MEZA)
The incident happened Wednesday, May 14 at a home in the 37800 Block of 29th Street East in Palmdale. (Photo by LUIS MEZA)

PALMDALE – A man shot and killed his grandson in an east Palmdale home Wednesday afternoon before turning the gun on himself, authorities said.

Palmdale Sheriff's deputies responded to the home around 2:49 p.m. after a call came in from the suspect's wife. (LUIS MEZA)
Palmdale Sheriff’s deputies responded to the home around 2:49 p.m. after a call came in from the suspect’s wife. (LUIS MEZA)

The victims have not yet been identified in the apparent murder-suicide, which occurred around 2:49 p.m. Wednesday, May 14, in the 37800 Block of 29th Street East in Palmdale, according to a press release from the Sheriff Department’s Homicide Bureau. Read it below:

Detectives have learned deputies from Palmdale Sheriff’s Station responded to a gunshot victim call, and when they arrived, they found the victim and suspect lying inside the location, each suffering from a gunshot wound.

The man shot his grandson to death after a heated argument and shoving match, detectives said. (LUIS MEZA)
The man shot his grandson to death after a heated argument and shoving match, detectives said. (LUIS MEZA)

While inside the location, the victim and the suspect were in a heated argument. The argument escalated into a shoving match when the suspect’s wife intervened and separated the two parties.

The suspect walked into another area of the residence to retrieve a handgun and returned to where the victim was standing. The suspect shot the victim once in the upper torso then turned the gun on himself and fired one shot into his upper torso.

The suspect was the victim’s grandfather.

There is no additional information at this time.

UPDATED 5/15/14: The names have been released by the Los Angeles County Coroner’s Office. The grandfather/alleged shooter has been identified as 74-year-old Crawford Dueitt. The grandson/shooting victim has been identified as 25-year-old Brandon Dueitt.

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Filed Under: Crime/ Safety

37 comments for "UPDATED: Man kills grandson, self at Palmdale home"

  1. dontworryboutit says

    August 30, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    All of you make me sick.

  2. Tami says

    May 31, 2014 at 10:19 am

    My long time friend Theresa also grew up with this family and its sad that the story end in this manner. The Grandfather must have felt he was saving the rest of the family from a bad seed. I know he loved his children and grand children very much and probably couldn’t live with himself for something he felt he had to do. People judge without knowing the facts. Love and light goes out to them and their families!

    • dontworryboutit says

      August 30, 2014 at 10:45 pm

      Why do you feel the need to comment, you don’t need to give you assumptions of why you think he was motivated, if you really cared you would have gone to the families faces and show love, not write it on the internet.

  3. Red says

    May 19, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    I’m trying to buy a smart gun? I know they have them, anyone know where

  4. William says

    May 18, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Here’s something to consider.

    Why aren’t people in high-crime urban areas around the country, especially minorities, the biggest advocates for concealed carry laws and limiting gun regulations?

    They seem to be the highest for risk of injury or death compared to some while guy living in the Antelope Valley in a low-crime neighorhood with a ****load of guns in his house and even more paranoia.

    Something is backward here.

    • dontworryboutit says

      August 30, 2014 at 10:42 pm

      Paranoia? You don’t know a thing about it, you sad piece of feces. You can have your view, but don’t fabricate variables you have no proof or even know the people involved just to make your sad point you desperately want others to side with you. If you feel obliged to talk face to face let me know you spineless prick.

  5. bythewayb says

    May 15, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    there is a murder suspect on the loose in our safe city of palmdale 11th street and 12th street and palmdale blvd are close we are supposed to stay inside

  6. John says

    May 15, 2014 at 11:18 am

    In the event that I needed to protect my family and myself from harm or death at the hands of another, a loaded gun in my hand is better than a cop on the phone.

    • Eric says

      May 15, 2014 at 11:27 am

      The Supreme Court ruled in the ’70s that the police have no constitutional obligation to protect you. It is up to you to protect you, its is up to you to protect your family.

    • justbeingreal says

      May 16, 2014 at 7:53 am

      AMEN to that by the time the cops get there you’d be dead.

  7. MR. PERPLEXED says

    May 15, 2014 at 11:15 am

    GUNS DONT KILLED PEOPLE…
    disturbed individuals kill people…
    just like,
    CARS DONT KILL PEOPLE…
    drunk individuals that get behind the wheel kill people!

    • yup says

      May 15, 2014 at 1:45 pm

      Amen!!

    • Red says

      May 19, 2014 at 9:45 pm

      Where can I buy a smart guns?? That’s exactly what I want it’s perfect, where do we get them??

  8. Mzs says

    May 15, 2014 at 10:02 am

    Well another great day of murders in the great antelope valley oh well this place has become a murder place.

  9. John says

    May 15, 2014 at 9:42 am

    There are many factors that this study are not taking into account. You have to read the last parts of the study to find them.

    http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full

    “A number of limitations should be considered when interpreting the findings from this study.”

    1. There may be bias in assessing behavioral or psychological characteristics of the decedent prior to death.

    2. The gun in the home may not have been the gun used in the death. This possibility seems less likely with suicide, but, with homicide, it is certainly plausible that someone brought a gun into the home.

    3. It is possible that the association between a gun in the home and risk of a violent death may be related to other factors that we were unable to control for in our analysis. For instance, with homicide, the association may be related to certain neighborhood characteristics or the decedent’s previous involvement in other violent or illegal behaviors.

    4. Persons living in high-crime neighborhoods or involved in illegal behaviors may acquire a gun for protection. The risk comes not necessarily from the presence of the gun in the house but from these types of environmental factors and exposures.

    5.Our study focused on fatal outcomes for a sample of decedents. We were unable to ascertain the risk of a nonfatal outcome and were also unable to weigh the risk of a violent death against any protective benefits of gun ownership.

  10. minty says

    May 15, 2014 at 8:47 am

    All those first comments are stupid. Shut up about gun control and the like.

    My goodness, people lost their lives here! Prayers going out to this family as they deal with this tragedy.

    • Kathryn says

      May 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm

      They were very nice people I have known them for 18 years. I grow up on that street.

    • kim coffey says

      May 15, 2014 at 1:51 pm

      They are a huge part of our family, they are second parent to my husband and his sister. Brandon was like a little brother to him. The family is devastated at this tragic loss. Please don’t turn this tragedy into a political forum. Be respectful of our families feelings.

      • Red says

        May 18, 2014 at 1:55 pm

        Sorry for lose

    • Red says

      May 18, 2014 at 1:40 pm

      @ minty, why do gun proponents have to make every tradgy a gun promotion. If everyone’s after your guns how do you have any?? Gun rights are one thing paranoid psychos are something else. I would like

  11. GunController says

    May 14, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    Anyone who thinks they are safer WITH a fun needs to do some research. This sort of thing happens (impulsively) quite frequently in homes with guns.

    • Koui says

      May 15, 2014 at 12:32 am

      I’d love to see you back that statement up with “real facts”.

      • gdavis says

        May 15, 2014 at 8:20 am

        Here you go, read this study showing that having a gun in your residence creates a greater risk of dying from a gun related incident.

        http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full

        • Irena says

          May 15, 2014 at 8:27 am

          The study itself is over 10 years old and the data used is over 20 years old. Not sure how accurate it is today.

          • Eric says

            May 15, 2014 at 9:43 am

            Just think, without a gun we might have had a beheading. Sick, bodies aren’t even in the ground and you are already starting in with gun control rhetoric.

            Same sick bastards who saw the tragedy at Sandy Hook and started licking their lips.

        • John says

          May 15, 2014 at 9:56 am

          You always bring up this study when an incident like this happens.

          Telling us that having a gun in your home creates a greater risk of dying from a gun related incident is just plain stupid.

          That’s like saying owning a car will put you at greater risk of dying in a car accident or playing football will put you at greater risk of an injury.

          I think you get the hint.

        • Frank says

          May 15, 2014 at 10:37 am

          Correlation != causation.

          Simply because you have a gun in your home doesn’t mean you’re a law abiding citizen to begin with. You’re picturing Joe Law Abiding Citizen and Suzy B. Homemaker having a tiff and shooting each other with a gun to further your argument. Now think about the Walter White meth cooker, or the MS13 bangers that are legally not allowed to have a gun to begin with but will use one at the drop of a hat getting shot and robbed in their home. Paints quite a different picture, doesn’t it?

          Why don’t you look at a breakdown of people with prior convictions with a gun in the home and homicides as opposed to those with a clean arrest record and guns in the home? Or hey, don’t think about it objectively and just go about thinking you’re right and keep those blinders on.

          • Gdavis says

            May 15, 2014 at 12:20 pm

            Surprised people would try to dismiss the inference that having a gun the house means that a person is more likely to be killed by a gun. It’s like saying that children are more likely to drown in a home with a pool. Doesn’t mean that pools should be banned, just as it doesn’t mean that guns should be banned. All the responsible gun owners I know acknowledge the risk and act accordingly, just as responsible parents put gates up around their pools.

            This instinct to dismiss any perspective that may not mesh with what you want is the reason why sensible reforms fail to be instituted.

          • Say what says

            May 15, 2014 at 7:29 pm

            Gdavis, did you even read what you wrote?

          • gdavis says

            May 16, 2014 at 10:29 am

            Say What?, I don’t get your comment, I think you are confusing me with the initial comment by GunController. I posted the study (the first time I’ve ever posted it) in response to someone asking for facts to support GunController’s argument that a person is more likely to be shot in a home with a gun.

            Its a simple fact, but people react like if you acknowledge the reality that you’re more likely to be shot if you own a gun that you saying we should get rid of the 2nd amendment. Despite what cable news networks try to say, it is possible to hold a view in between two extreme positions on an issue.

          • Eric says

            May 16, 2014 at 11:04 am

            If you own a car, your more likely to be in a car accident. If you own a stove, your more likely to burn something. If you own a fishing pole, your more likely to fish.

            OK, you have a point. But is it a point that really needed to be stated?

      • Red says

        May 18, 2014 at 1:49 pm

        @koui, how many facts do you need. I don’t want gun control, I would like a person with a legally purchased to pass the same requirements as the person who sells ice cream or I totally support smart guns. Why doesn’t the NRA support smart guns?? Then have all you want.

    • NoFunsAllowed says

      May 15, 2014 at 7:29 am

      Well, a FUN sounds completely harmless. And yes, I do know, for a fact, that guns can and do save lives. This person would have killed using a knife, car, or anything else at his immediate disposal; the gun just so happened to be there. Don’t preclude all methods of killing from your narrow comments. Also, learn to proofread.

    • steve says

      May 15, 2014 at 8:40 am

      If you don’t believe in firearm’s and you honestly think that you are safer without one and really want to make a statement to all,put a sign out in front of your house reading “There isn’t a gun in this house,we don’t believe in gun’s”.Then I will think that you believe that crap you are shoveling.

    • Fun Control! says

      May 15, 2014 at 10:00 am

      I think I’m safer with a fun!!!

      • Red says

        May 18, 2014 at 1:51 pm

        @fun, I’m safer with fun too.

        • Red says

          May 19, 2014 at 9:42 pm

          Were can you buy a smart gun??? That’s the next gun I want. Anyone know where I can get one?

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