Sheriff’s Department responds to controversial fight at Lancaster High

LANCASTER – The sheriff’s department has released details of their investigation into a controversial fight that took place at Lancaster High School Tuesday.

Read the full press release below:

Shortly after noon on Tuesday, September 25, 2012, a Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputy who is assigned as a School Resource Deputy at Lancaster High School (located at 44701 32nd Street West, Lancaster) was on campus when he heard about a fight near the cafeteria area.

The deputy immediately went to the cafeteria area and saw a large group of students. School security was detaining at least two students.

School security personnel told the deputy that the two students had been fighting so the deputy began an investigation into the incident.

The investigation, which included talking to many student witnesses, revealed that the two students had been part of a large group of students who were all standing in a lunch line in the cafeteria area.

The 15-year old male student (suspect/victim) had complained to a female student about her cutting into the line, instead of waiting.

A 17-year old female student (suspect/victim) who was standing nearby, heard the 15-year-old telling the female student not to cut into line. The 17-year-old female rushed over to the 15-year-old male and pushed his chest, causing him to fall back and strike his back against a metal handrail.

Believing he had just been pushed by a male student, the 15-year old punched the 17-year old in the face. The two students then exchanged several punches until the fight was broken up by school security.

Both the 15-year-old male student and 17-year-old female student were arrested by the Lancaster Sheriff’s Station deputy for fighting on school grounds, a “mutual combat” misdemeanor battery, 243.2 of the California Penal Code.

The deputy reported that the 15-year-old did not appear injured and the 17-year-old received a small laceration to her lip. Both refused medical treatment at the school.

The deputy immediately notified the parents of both of the students, and released each of them to the custody of the parents.

Both students were suspended by the school.

If you have any information about this incident, please contact Lancaster Sheriff’s Station detectives at (661-948-8466). Or, if you wish to remain anonymous, call “LA Crime Stoppers” by dialing 800-222-TIPS (8477), texting the letters TIPLA plus your tip to CRIMES (274637), or using the website

  192 comments for “Sheriff’s Department responds to controversial fight at Lancaster High

  1. curiousgeorge
    January 29, 2013 at 10:35 am

    these comments are entertaining….better than Jerry Springer

  2. Liz
    December 27, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    another instance of bullying by really and realitycheck against M Egberts.

  3. Ken
    October 8, 2012 at 9:20 pm
  4. Meaner
    October 6, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Why are high school students fighting over “cutsies”? Why was she in someone elses business and pushing people regardless of gender? Since when did getting pushed become cause for throwing punches? I’ll tell you when. When parents stopped raising their kids with any amount of respect, morals, or ethics. The parents should be punished for raising their kids with such a sense of self entitlement that they think they can do whatever they want. BTW arguing over when it is appropriate to hit a female is a moot point. It’s not appropriate to hit anyone unless you are defending/protecting yourself as in saving your butt not your pride.

    • Jory B
      January 28, 2013 at 2:37 pm

      What about we men, who act like men and want to be with men that act like men? Additionally, Your use of gender roles is quite… well sad. I mean, I know a great many men who are very effeminate and even have cross dressed, but have heterosexual relationships. They each love their girlfriend and are extremely committed to them. However, I think that the girl in the situation above was wrong to push the guy.(assuming the information given was truthful) I do not think that she got what she deserved because she “act[s] like a man.” Homosexuals and Transgenders are very different people. Please educate yourself on the difference between gender and sex.

      • Kimmer
        January 28, 2013 at 9:47 pm

        I think the “girl” in the story, dresses like a boy, acts like a boy, talks low so she sounds more like a boy, likes girls-like most boys and anything else to pass herself off as a boy. The only time she steps up as a girl is now when someone smacks her back.
        There is a difference between transgender, cross dressing and homosexuality. When you choose to make the choice to live as one or the other, stop playing both sides for publicity and sympathy.

        • Valerie
          January 31, 2013 at 5:57 pm

          Kimmer that id bd and you know it

  5. TruthBeTold
    October 1, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    And it would be really great if people posting comments would use the correct YOUR and YOU’RE …..Y’all are killing me!! : >

  6. TruthBeTold
    October 1, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Talk about a mess! The Internet idiots jumping on some lynch mob bandwagon ready to hang this poor kid without even knowing what really happened! Just cuz the chick was gay does not put her in the right! I see boys in High School that are so pretty with their smooth skin and arched eyebrows, and girls who strap down their breasts and wear baggy clothes and super short haircuts and just strutting like they have something hanging between their legs! You dont know who youre dealing with these days! So I can see how this kid didn’t know what the heck he was punching and it happened so quick ….his reaction was to defend himself! You have the right to defend yourself against a male or female!!! That old school crap, don’t hit a girl ever!! That’s craziness! If someone comes at you ready to do you harm…protect yourself!! I know some of you are gonna twist my words…,like I’m condoning hitting women …….I am not! I’m talking only to protect yourself!
    The douche bags that beat women for the heck of it need to rot in jail!!!
    Don’t get it twisted!! Leave the poor kid alone!!

  7. October 1, 2012 at 11:32 am

    This is all crazy.. this 15 yr old boy is my family one of the sweetest kids I ever met in my life. Never would he do something like hit a girl knowing she was a girl. I have friends that are females that look like males.. he was raised better. No matter what you all think that 15 yr old boy is a wonderful kid. The death threats need to stop.

    • julie
      October 1, 2012 at 12:28 pm

      i feel bad for him..its shamefull for people to send him death threats.

    • tiana
      October 1, 2012 at 9:42 pm

      i am so sorry for this little boy. his parents should move him out of town, kids are crazy and stupid these days. maybe even home school.

    • david williamson
      October 6, 2012 at 9:16 pm

      you should not be raising dumb asses you stupid [removed]

    • pearl
      November 15, 2012 at 1:24 am

      Are you kidding me right now?! Have u seen the video?! He knew damn well what he was doing?

      • KLM
        November 15, 2012 at 10:32 am


      • KLM
        November 15, 2012 at 10:41 am

        WHAT VIDEO

    • Valerie
      November 17, 2012 at 2:12 am

      Them kids aint gonna do nothing they parents need to get on dey ass god will protect him

  8. Kim
    September 30, 2012 at 8:29 am

    This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I work for the school district. I see a lot of “girls” at school, that, honestly, look and act like boys. When this boy was pushed, by what he thought was a boy, and he fights back… how is that a hate crime? He didn’t know it was a girl, period. Maybe it’s a hate crime on her part, because he’s a boy. She shouldn’t have instigated this fight. All and all, there is zero tolerance, they both should get suspended a few days, end of story. The only reason I feel this “hate crime” is being played is probably so a lawsuit can be filed for some free money by her family. You dress like a boy, you act like a boy, you get what you get.

    • david williamson
      October 6, 2012 at 8:50 pm

      you are a dumb ass how the hell can you not know that you are being hit by female, i live in austin probabley the gayest city in texas yeah i know i have seen a lot a guys dress like grils and there was never any kind of mis understanding i knew all the time as did my security officers and other i went to school with i grew up in austin texas still live here in high school girls at 17 have titties and breast so you are telling me some 15 year old punk bitch is not going to know the difference so that is like when you are going to get searched by an officer that the officer is not going to know the sex of the person what a dumb ass you should be fired and drug out in the street and shot in the face of the view of public for acts of stupidity he is just a dumb punk kid i have been hit plenty of times plenty of fights and if he can not take that as foot ball player being pushed then he needs to quit [removed]

    • Valerie
      January 31, 2013 at 6:07 pm

      Kim palmdale is full of bs the schools r [removed] as well as da [removed]neck cops me I got 3 sons but palmdale Lancaster schools need to change the way they do things

  9. SJGranai
    September 30, 2012 at 2:40 am

    It even made as a “Probably False” story. WOW.. that is when you know your BS has reached an all time low (or high if that was your goal).

    Congrats, you are now up there with Nigerian email scams. I am sure her mother is very proud of this accomplishment.

    I have worked closely with the LGBT Community out here for a long time. I stepped away for personal reasons and have started getting more involved slowly. But, having seen the train wreck perpetuated by those in the community, without due process, is appalling. Shame on those who jumped the gun and created such a sh*t storm.

    I hope a lesson has been learned. I do believe a public statement should be made apologizing for the knee jerk reactions of those who supposedly represent the LGBT Community out here. They sure did have alot to say when it all started.

    • Jack
      September 30, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      BAHAHAHAHAHAHA Snopes is using Fran Paolinelli as a respectable source???!! LOLOLOL

      • Jill
        September 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm

        Talk about someone with a agenda for all things Lancaster! I just lost all respect for snopes!

    • October 6, 2012 at 8:54 pm

      your a dumb ass

  10. Tulissa
    September 30, 2012 at 2:35 am

    Alright everybody this is the stupidest thing I’ve heard about all year. They are children, hormonal high school children and on top of that, its wrong for a man to hit a woman but its ok for a woman to run up and punch a man? What is wrong with all of you? This is not a hate crime this is a high school fight and it sounds to me like they both got what they deserved. She punched him first and then they BOTH continued throwing punches. Women want equal rights but they want to use the its wrong for men to hit women when he was defending himself. Get over it guys. I know I am.

  11. Notagain!!!!
    September 29, 2012 at 10:24 pm


  12. Christina Lopez
    September 29, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    I agree its not a hate crime, yeah she shouldnt have hit him, but he shouldn’t have hit her for the respect for himself to not hit a girl, no matter what its gonna make him look bad he should have payed a lil attention before just punching someone. Idk about you but i always look before i start throwing punches just cuz i got pushed but hey thats my opinion sue me for it and i’m 18 and work for a police station and they change alot in their reports to protect people i file them i know my friends 14 year old bro died yesterday and the cops report say that he was threatening a cop and he was only shot twice by the cop yet my friend was there and the kid only said idgaf about my life and the cop shot him 9 times because he thought he had a gun but none of that is in the police report so dont always believe reports. yeah idk what happen with this kid but should have looked before you threw a punch it only makes you look bad thats what happen when you hit a girl next time think before you act.

  13. K
    September 29, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    All as I could say if a women thinks she is man enough to hit a man sooooo be it…….These girls are told if you hit a man the man won’t hit back because your a women…Hellllllllll no……. is all I have to say…I have 2 boys and I always told my boys if a women thinks she could hit you, I don’t thinks so….But don’t ever hit your wife…….So people really need to get there fact right before posting……

      September 29, 2012 at 8:34 pm


      • Yomama
        September 29, 2012 at 10:11 pm

        [removed] stfu
        She looked like a guy and acted like a guy, all eye witnesses are saying exactly that. What was he suppose to do ask are you female? Before he hit “it” he was defending himself!

      • Dvious1
        September 30, 2012 at 9:21 am

        Let’s end this stupid diatribe right here. She hit him…he beat her a** FOR HITTING HIM! Period. If she didn’t want the fight, SHE should have kept her hands to HERSELF. That “don’t hit a girl” crap ended when girls decided to square up like dudes. I will neve teach my son to not defend himself! That is just stupid and puts him at risk. If SHE can swing on him to do harm, she better EXPECT to have it come back to her…period….dot….end of story.

      • Carlos G
        September 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm

        Another English 101 drop-out heard from. “He making”, He homophobic”, “Prolly”, “Ass whopping”. They walk among us and reproduce.

        • Hector
          September 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm

          Yes it’s too bad there are so many of them among us, but every cloud has a silver lining. These Springer style stories are great entertainment for us normal types. Can’t wait for the next one.

          • Hector
            September 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm

            And, the responders’ comments and lack of education are as funny as the stories themselves.

    • Christina Lopez
      September 29, 2012 at 9:28 pm

      your sick you tell your kids to hit a girl but not your wife dude if they grow up knowing they can hit a girl its never gonna change i have been hit by many guys because they are lil pussys sorry but thats not right

      • julie
        October 1, 2012 at 11:13 am

        the question is did you hit them first? if yes then that will teach you to keep ur hands to urself! if not then yes hes a dumbass.

        • seanna
          October 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm

          what kind of mother teaches their sons it’s ok to hit a female a poor excuse of one. Men should never ever hit a girl I don’t care if she broke my sons jaw he has legs and can walk away it is never all right what an idiot you must be! there is no lesson to be learned even if she did hit him first the right thing to do is report it and press charges not answer with more violence!

          • julie
            October 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm


      • [Removed] Paleez
        October 1, 2012 at 7:43 pm

        @christina lopez: I’ve never hit a girl, but after reading your comments, I would have to punch you! Its no wonder you’ve been “hit by many guys.”

  14. JillBob
    September 29, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    This is ridiculous. The aunt blew this out of proportion. Because no one bothers to learn their facts, they wouldn’t know that Monica provoked the boy first. She pushed him, and she didn’t deny it, that is when the boy went off on her. Yes the boy is a football player, a skinny little white boy who is fifteen years old, isn’t a large monster, and just less than 5’5. Monica looks like a legit stud, so if she wants to act like a guy, she can be treated as so. He regrets doing what he did and he feels bad, but he didn’t know it was a girl. So learn your facts before you idiots talk [removed].

    • PH
      September 29, 2012 at 3:49 pm

      Your right because I thought it was just a girl being beat up. facebook has posted this way.

    • Millie
      September 29, 2012 at 6:14 pm

      I don’t know but kinda sounds like O.J Simpson all over again who’s to say that this boy didn’t say anything to provoke this girl.I’m sorry i’m not buying that this boy didn’t know that it was a girl that he was getting mouthy with,he should have have been the bigger one and just walked away. But no he’s a football player e same as o.j and look what he got away with,let me guess this kid still gets to play football don’t he?He should have been kicked off the football team,I would not want someone like that representing my football team.

  15. really
    September 28, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    This whole debate is ridiculous!!! Obviously not a hate crime…. All your opinions about hitting a girl are stupid, there is no law about hitting a girl versus a boy. Chances are she pushed the boy and he socked her, end of story. And to the people who say the school is responsible, your dumb!! What are you going to do have a one to one student staff ratio to babysit. Kids have fought since school has been around. Both kids were suspended and arrested. This was handled the way it should have been. Hate crimes are ridiculous anyways! If I randomly beat someone or I pick a protected class member, whats the difference. It is preferential treatment. Dont get me wrong, assualting someone based on who they are is deplorable but attacking anyone is. The other problem you run into is protected class members shouting hate crime any time they are victims of crime. If it is proven that people are screaming hate crime when it isnt, they should be ashamed!!

    • Shia
      September 29, 2012 at 7:57 am

      I find it interesting that this becomes a “controversial” issue just because one of the students happened to be gay. This isn’t an issue of sexuality, nor is it an issue of whether or not a guy should hit a girl. The bottom line is that this kid got attack by 2 females and he defended himself. Let’s also note that he did NOT hit the one that he thought was actually a girl, despite the fact that she was hitting him too. He didn’t pick on a gay kid. He didn’t give some “dyke” what she deserved. He defended himself against an unprovoked attack and now the whole country is demonizing him. I am a lesbian. I am a masculine lesbian. In reading this story, what I see is a pathetic attempt for attention and drama. That girl shouldn’t have put her hands on that boy in the first place. If you start a fight, you had better be ready to take some punches, regardless of your gender or sexuality. This sounds like bullying to me, not gay hate. But thanks to all of the bad publicity it’s gotten, it wouldn’t surprise me if the poor kid hates lesbians for the rest of his life. It’s a shame.

      • just sayin
        September 29, 2012 at 9:41 am

        This whole thing has received way more attention then it deserves and has been blown completely out of proportion. It is sad that people pull out the gay card just for attention. Until there is any kind of proof that this girl got anything more then a split lip i call BS and say get over it and move on. Gay people have many serious issues to deal with on a daily basis let alone dealing with the ones that are calling wolf just to get some attention.

      • Letlow
        September 29, 2012 at 10:38 am

        It’s a “controversial” issue because people won’t leave it alone. I can’t believe this story has pulled more than 100 comments on this site. The kids have been punished and grownups continue to debate this thing until the wheels fall off, so I would say that makes it pretty controversial.

        And no where in the article does it mention that anyone is gay. This tells me the sheriffs investigation was “sexuality neutral” (a phrase I just made up) and so is the article. So it seems like you’re the one playing the gay card here.

        The story dies if people stop talking about it, myself included.
        This is my last comment on the story.

      • julie
        October 1, 2012 at 11:18 am

        thank you for ur comment! u are AWSOME!!

    • Debbie
      September 29, 2012 at 10:05 am

      Did anyone get lunch? That seems to be what started the whole affair. People have been hurt and killed for stupid inconsequential things in this world; this is a prime example of anger gone wrong. But all this because someone cut in line at lunch. Seriously? If these students have this bad of an anger management problem counseling is seriously needed and appropriate. Why did someone in the line not break this fight up?

    • Margarito Flores
      September 29, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      That’s bull [removed] a real MAN NEVER touches a girl What a [removed] Who ever thinks it’s OK to hit a girl. And for the [removed] deputy he actually threatened the mom of the girl, that if she pressed charges the [removed] deputy will take the [removed]hole wanna be football players side.

    • Millie
      September 29, 2012 at 6:26 pm

      You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that it’s okay for a boy to hit a girl.What do you hit your wife or girlfriend is that why you say that it is okay to hit a girl.He could have been a bigger man than that and just walk away that’s the easiest way to defuse any situation that is to walk away.

      • really
        September 29, 2012 at 10:20 pm

        Millie you are so foolish. My statement was clear. A man should not hit a woman, however if a woman strikes a man she should fully expect to get hit like a man. Women are sacred to me, they are to be respected and cherished. If a woman has no respect for herself and doesnt cherish her value as a woman and decides to fight like a man then all bets are off.

  16. Michelle Egberts
    September 28, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Citizen’s Commission on Jail Violence FINAL REPORT

    • really
      September 28, 2012 at 11:47 pm

      Go grind your ax somewhere else you thief. Yes thats right I called you a thief! Dont like it sue me! Why use this stories comment section to post a link to something way off topic. Its obvious you are bitter towards the city and law enforcement because you feel they have ruined your life. You should spend less time typing superfluous B.S. and more time working to pay back the people you stole from. In closing, Michelle, YOU SUCK AT LIFE!!!

      • Liz
        December 27, 2012 at 11:27 pm

        I thought I remembered you and realitycheck attacking M. Egberts before. I was right. You guys are nasty and bitter about something. Almost sounds personal!:)

    • realitycheck
      September 29, 2012 at 11:10 am

      @Egberts, you are a waste of oxygen, a piece of human excrement! I’m with @really,,,WTF does this article have to do with any alleged sheriff misconduct? There has been absolutely NO allegation (other than a few hoodrats on this site, who weren’t there, talking out their A$$) that the sheriff’s did anything wrong. They interviewed numerous student witnesses,(its Lancaster High, so you know they got statements from ALL races), and not ONE of them heard anything about a hate crime, or that the cop did or said anything wrong. Once again, because you are a SEVERAL TIME CONVICTED FELON, you chose to use this story to advance your unsubstantiated complaints about law enforcement. Your opinion doesn’t mean a damn thing in this world Egberts! Go crawl back into the trailer park you came from!
      As for the “play auntie” who has given this nothing-of-an-incident its 15 minutes of fame:memo to you, your time is up. Just because you’re a flaming homo, doesn’t mean everything that happens to you is a “hate crime.” You messed with the bull, your “play niece” got the horns!!

  17. Vince
    September 28, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Damn [removed] got what she asked for

    • Vince
      September 28, 2012 at 3:18 pm

      Must be [removed] giving this comment thumbs down!! LOL

  18. SueAnn Maree
    September 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    Don’t cut in line! Everyone is tired of being pushed around, bullied, or stressed. Have some manners!

  19. Louisiana985
    September 28, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    She wants to be man so why is this considered a hate crime.
    She looks/acts like a man then she can take a pun like a man. PERIOD

    • motherof11
      September 28, 2012 at 1:34 pm

      I doesn’t matter if she acts and looks like a man or not, she is still a female. My daughter has a short haircut, does that mean she should be treated like a man…I don’t think so…

      • Mom23js
        September 28, 2012 at 1:39 pm

        If she LOOKS LIKE A DUDE how was the 15yr old supposed to know?? He couldn’t see thru her boxers otherwise I’m sure it would have gone down in a different manner!! If you walk like a dude, act like a dude, talk like a dude you must be a dude!! And the girl started it!! This is not a hate crime people need to knock it off with labeling this something its not!!

        • Anonymous
          September 30, 2012 at 1:32 am

          Have you seen her picture?

          That is from her Facebook. Hope does she not look female? Maybe if you lived in a box you might think she is male but no she is CLEARLY a female. Also LnHS is really good at lying and hiding the facts. Remember the student molested by a security guard? Nope because they threatened to expel him if he pressed charges.

          Also this isn’t the police report, this is a falsified document. They didn’t list her fractured jaw which will have to be wired shut, her concussion or her multiple (13 – 15) or so around her face, chest and neck. The boy suffered only two contusions.

          A push is not an invitation to beat someone unconscious and keep hitting them.

          I am working with the LGBT group investigating it. Also the school expelled the girl.

          • julie
            October 1, 2012 at 12:22 pm

            ive seen girlier boys than her…and im sure with being pushed to the ground he didnt even have time to look at her up and down and guess if she was a girl or not.
            and the only way u avoid getting hit is by keeping ur hands to urself.

            this argument shouldnt even be about who hit who or what the reason was…it should be that we are not teaching our children to keep their hands to themselves and stop the violence for everyones sake.

          • lol
            October 2, 2012 at 12:18 pm

            lol. That [removed] look like a [removed]to me!

          • R U Serious
            October 2, 2012 at 9:39 pm

            so hows that investigation goin? i hear she returned to school today with not single a mark on her.

          • Liz
            December 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm

            Looks alot like B. Bauer, now in Idaho.

      • Sarah
        September 28, 2012 at 1:48 pm

        Being a female doesn’t give you the right to pick fights and then cry after someone hits you back. Likely, the guy didn’t even look up to see, seeing as she pushed him hard enough to knock him back onto a rail. I doubt he had much of a thought process when he swung at her, and even less of one when she KEPT SWINGING BACK.

        Being a female isn’t an excuse to get away with starting fights. If he had just blatantly attacked a girl, I could see your point, but she started it, so she doesn’t. If she wants to throw punches like a man, she can take them.

        It was a fight. Nothing more, nothing less. This is a case where gender shouldn’t even matter. Suspend them both and move on.

        • Jessica
          September 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm

          I don’t think the girl hurt him to the point where he had a busted lip. the boy did he over did the whole fight.

          • September 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm

            Ok this is all over facebook it dont matter who u r noone shuld hit anyone grow up and be an adult the 15 year old boy needs tgrown in jail for hittin a femail bc shes gay its a hate crime and the 17 year old girl yes she shuld of never pushed him but pushin someonevdont mean to beat the shit out of a woman that 15 year old boy is a pussy if I seen him hit her I eould of walked up and knocked the shit out of him no man puts his hands on a women if u do.ur nothin but a pussy

          • Sarah
            September 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

            She made him fall back onto a metal rail. He easily could have been hurt, and not only that, but she kept fighting. It’s not like he punched her once, busted her lip, and walked away. She kept throwing punches, too.

            It shouldn’t matter how bad she hurt him initially, even. SHE wanted to start the physical violence. SHE did. And a busted lip isn’t that big of a deal.

          • Sarah
            September 28, 2012 at 2:22 pm

            Mr “no name” posting. I’m glad you believe everything you read on facebook. As of now, there’s ZERO evidence backing up that this was a hate crime. Also, she hit him first, so by your “it dont matter who u r noone shuld hit anyone grow up” then she was in the wrong in the first place as well. No, a guy shouldn’t hit a girl, but you really want to throw in him jail for standing up for himself? She was 2 years older than him, she should’ve never touched him in the first place. It’s a fight. I can’t believe it is even getting this much publicity. Suspend them both, move on.

            It’s also easy to call people names from behind your keyboard. Had you witnessed this, I highly doubt you would’ve “walked up and knocked the shit out of him” – and that also goes against your own words of nobody should hit each other.

            There are plenty of times it’s justified for a man to hit a woman. I’m NOT saying this is the case, but there are plenty. It doesn’t automatically make you a “pussy”. I’m a girl, and if I go after a dude physically, especially with a weapon, I damn sure expect to be hit back. Being a woman doesn’t give us special rights to be aggressive with no consequences! Again, I’m not saying hitting her was the best solution in this situation, but to say he needs to go to jail when she started and then partook in the fight is ludicrous.

          • Dan
            September 28, 2012 at 2:47 pm

            @ “No Name”

            I agree with you, it was a hate crime. AS the girl was the one to initiate the physical contact, she must have “hated” the boy because he wasn’t gay and decided to do something to him because of it.

            COME ON, this is ridiculous.

            It is exactly what the charges were, mutual combat. Violence begets violence and the innate nature to defend one’s self is blind to race, age, sex, and sexual orientation.

            Suspend them both, charge them both with assault, and call it a day.

      • ShanT1969
        September 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm

        Your daughter should not be treated like a man under NORMAL circumstances. However, this 17 year old girl pushed him first. SHE initiated the fight. The fact she looks like a boy with short hair made him react instantly as if he were fighting a boy. Maybe if he knew he was actually fighting a girl he wouldn’t have hit back. But as a woman, it is my opinion, that NO person (male or female) has the right to hit another person (male or female), and not be hit back. I know a lot of women who hit, slap and punch knowing they will not suffer the consequences. I think they are asking for it.

        • J
          September 28, 2012 at 11:49 pm

          My daughter goes to Lancaster High she did not witness it but has friends that did. The story in the paper is true and the school reports the same as the Sheriff reports. The district also has a ZERO tolerance on violence and whom ever hits or pushes in this case first is the aggressor and will get the assault charge. I do not think it matter what sex you are. Now people are spreading rumors and protesters are outside a high school and now I feel like it is unsafe to send my 17 year old daughter to school who is a straight A student. Is this over dramatization worth the risk of the others thousands of students at this school. She and the guy were barely harmed and they both were boxing it out so both regardless are responsible! Also it is not cool to cut in line and bully even if you are girl doing the bullying. The fact that she is gay was not even an issue until later on that day. I think maybe family or friends are fueling the fire! Remember negativity breeds negativity people, and this was witnessed also by cameras on the school ground there are cameras all over that school my older daughter and now my other daughter have and do attend that school. So maybe the school needs to release the video.

          • Margarito Flores
            September 29, 2012 at 2:05 pm

            Yes morron, but regardless is the girl pushed the dick head first he should have walked gotten up and walked away. No REAL MAN PUTS HIS HANDS ON A WOMAN EVER. Who ever thinks other wise is an IDIOT. Doesn’t matter if she is gay or not.

      • Gln
        September 28, 2012 at 6:40 pm

        Does your daughter get involved in an argument between two people when it’s not her place to do so? and after push one of these people to the ground? This girl got what was comming to her! she should of minded her own buisness! she’s A coward for pushing A male, knowing that males can’t strike back! Seems like A good way to get yourself killed!!

      • Logical???
        September 28, 2012 at 8:52 pm

        I’m a mother as well! This young lady made her choices in life and those choices led her to where she is today! What ever happened to accountability? She portrays her self as a young man and dates girls. She is the one rushing this younger boy and pushing him. People please stop giving your kids excuses in life to behave poorly! That is what’s wrong with this generation!”she’s still a female” is the saddest thing ever! Maybe someone should have taught her to behave as a lady?!

        • Elizabeth
          September 28, 2012 at 9:40 pm

          Just because she has a vagina and boobs doesn’t mean she has to behave like a stereotypical “girl”. Who is to say what a girl is supposed to do/ act like. “Maybe someone should’ve taught her to behave like a lady.” Go [removed] yourself homophobe.

          • Margarito Flores
            September 29, 2012 at 1:57 pm

            Act like a lady just like you yeaa okaaayyy!!!

    • AT
      September 28, 2012 at 2:19 pm

      My fear is that the cops cover stuff up- GET REAL, happens EVERYDAY. I wanna see the report from hospital on her jaw and if broken that boy needs expulsion-PERIOD.

      • Sarah
        September 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm

        It also happens every day that people blow stories out of proportion/use “I’m gay” (when being gay had nothing to do with it) to get media coverage and their 15 minutes of fame.

    • Mike
      September 28, 2012 at 9:29 pm

      You’re suck a [removed].

    • Margarito Flores
      September 29, 2012 at 1:43 pm

      [removed] wannabe football player hits women and the dick head deputy threatened the girls mother. So why is it that when you hit a law enforcement officer they make a big deal about it? Shut the [removed] UP AND JUST TAKE IT, don’t press charges.

  20. Brian
    September 28, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Sounds to me like she started the fight. She cut in line, he told her not to, she pushed him over the rail, he hit her back. And because she’s a lesbian they want to make this about sexual orientation? Sounds to me like its just a schoolyard dispute. I admit that he was wrong to hit a girl, but I know some females who you can’t tell if they are men or women and vice versa. If this were to go to court and all the facts came out, it would more than likely be in favor of the football player because he was assaulted first and defended himself.

    • Geri
      September 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm

      According to the above report, the girl who cut in line is not the same girl who pushed the football player.

      The football player did not get pushed “over the rail” he got pushed “causing him to fall back and strike his back against a metal handrail.”

      Violence in schools should not be tolerated at all ever. Both students deserved to be suspended at minimum.

    • ed
      September 28, 2012 at 4:41 pm

      Isn’t breaking in line a Capital Offense? It was in my day. Without the break-in, no offense. End of issue.

  21. Omar
    September 28, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Ok so she shouldn’t har pushed him, I agree, but why does tht justify then going to punch someone? It’s a dispute over a lunchline seriously. At my school there was zero tolerance for fighting, even I kids got into a fight outside of school they would get suspended for months, to the rest of the year even. In no way should this have gone further than a push, he should have told an adult, better yet there should have been an adult supervising. If your response to a push on a lunch line is to fight and be violent then you have anger/violent issues. He should be suspended from the team for the year, focus on his education and seek to control his temper and anger. In the real world he would be in jail with a lawsuit. The girl, was properly suspended, and also needs to speak with a school counselor regularly to make sure she doesn’t bully. But fighting violence with more violence is not just, should not be condoned. Being on a football team should be a privledge which you get for having good grades, and a way to learn and develop team building and leadership skills. He should not be allowed to play, if he really loves football he will learn to report to adults when something like this happens and set an example for others. Provide incentive for students to behave, don’t slap them on the wrist.

    • Doris Flinchum
      September 28, 2012 at 1:03 pm

      Are you serious? He was supposed to bitch up & not do anything? He wouldn’t receive respect from anyone if he let it slide. And really, you think that snitching is the way to go. Apparently, they cut your balls off a long time.

    • Sarah
      September 28, 2012 at 1:53 pm

      Wait wait wait. HE needs to learn to control HIS temper, when SHE PUSHED HIM?! Are you [removed] serious?

      She pushed him so hard he fell back into a rail, all because he said she shouldn’t cut in line. Sounds to me like she has anger issues. You want to be so quick to blame the guy here, because a guy shouldn’t hit a girl, but that’s absolutely stupid. Your argument is stupid. You want to protect her from being bullied? She wasn’t bullied. She picked a fight and got hit back. In a perfect world he’d tell an adult, blah blah, yeah. Well, looking back at highschool, I wasn’t really as grown up and in the right mindset, especially not if I was in a group of my buddies. If I had to guess, I’d say once he hit the rail, he came up swinging, rushed with adrenaline, without a second thought. On top of that, SHE KEPT SWINGING, TOO.

      This was started by her, it is her fault, and it doesn’t sound like it has anything to do with her gender or sexuality. If anyone needs to seek counseling, it’s her for having anger issues over someone not wanting her to cut in line.

      Oh, and for the record, I am a girl, and I was raised better than to think that just because I have a vagina means I can go around starting fights then cry and try to ruin someone’s life because they hit me back. It’s not an excuse, and this wouldn’t even be an issue if she had taken the high road (you know, the one you claim he should have taken by telling an adult) and just kept her hands to herself.

      • September 30, 2012 at 12:51 pm

        He should not be hitting a gay person or eneyone else ! He should get more the 5 days suspended more then 5 days from school ! You should not be bullied in school or fight .And the officer should not tell her that he will take his side of the story .

  22. Monik
    September 28, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Did not see anything on kcal9 last night it was a baseball game on at 11

    • Monik
      September 28, 2012 at 8:58 am

      I ment 10

      • teshi
        September 28, 2012 at 1:43 pm

        I did not see anything on any channel!! Just here and that wild story on FB!!

        • R U Serious
          October 2, 2012 at 9:54 pm

          that’s cause this is what actually happened. it was just a high school fight that noone would have heard about if not for someone seeking attention after picking a fight with a smaller, younger student and losing.

  23. Aghast
    September 28, 2012 at 8:43 am

    So a female who dresses like a male and wants to be a male cuts in line at lunch time and is confronted about it by someone who happens to be a football player.

    When she is confronted, she chooses to hit the football player who retaliates by hitting her back.

    And this is “news” because????? Oh yeah, because the instigator happens to be a lesbian so she can provoke a fight and pull the “lesbian” card out when things don’t go her way.

    And now her family wants to take that “lesbian” card and run with it to the news stations, the papers, the talk show hosts and whoever they can to get their 15 minutes of fame.

    how embarrassing!

    • marie
      September 28, 2012 at 8:52 am

      You sound dumb as [removed]. If it was your child how would you react?

      • Sarah
        September 28, 2012 at 1:55 pm

        I’d tell my girl to stop pushing people over stupid shit. Sounds to me like it had nothing to do with her sexuality, or her gender. She picked a fight, got hurt, and now wants to whine. She shouldn’t have pushed him, period. Fight would’ve been completely avoided if she hadn’t have lost HER temper, but now we have this poor boy who the media is portraying to be a gay-hating monster despite how SHE started the fight. Incredibly ridiculous.

        • Margarito Flores
          September 29, 2012 at 1:49 pm

          POOR BOY??? HE IS A [removed] FOR PUTTING HIS HANDS ON A GIRL. SO WHO EVER IS MAKING THIS [removed]HOLE LOOK LIKE A VICTIM IS A PIECE OF [removed]. Specially if is the deputy department writing this comments.

          • realitycheck
            September 29, 2012 at 3:19 pm

            learn to speak English “Margarito”

          • julie
            October 1, 2012 at 1:22 pm

            he is a victim because im sure unlike u i HAVE READ more stories.. this boy was not only tackled but then the girls went and beat on him more..he kept fighting the girl thinking she was a boy…but truthfully thats not even a issue to me…HE got bullied..HE got beat up on…and now hes getting death yes that does make him a victim

    • Tired of their ways
      September 28, 2012 at 11:43 am

      I agree…you want to play that lesbo card… you play/you pay!!

    • motherof11
      September 28, 2012 at 1:38 pm

      No she didn’t cut in line it was another girl that was suppose to cut in line. She got more than just a cut lip. Her parents took her to the Dr. It don’t matter the fighting has to stop in school period.

    • Marc
      September 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm

      So far there is not one shred of evidence that this is a hate crime. Or otherwise.. the only evidence is hear-say and this other inflamatory article being passed around on FaceBook that barely resembles this article above here at …

      The only part that is even close is “..sheriff responds to ‘controversial’ fight”.. As in the “controversial” part can be mis construed into all sorts of meanings and opinions..

      But, either way.. I’m sorry folks, there is NO evidence of a hate crime.. (so far, or at least not yet..) All we have to go by is this article and that’s it !!! Nothing else! because all of us know that logically, we can not go by the words of some email passed around on Facebook!! And its the downside of social media. Everyone’s getting so fired up over something that possibly didn’t even happen and is already being passed off as truth and fact.

      If this indeed really did happen, we will hear about it.. it will not stay quiet. Trust me! I know stories like this can be covered up but its very difficult. especially something like this where already is gaining so much noteriety and attention.. All the rest is hear-say until then!!!

    • September 30, 2012 at 12:57 pm

      Yes she should take and press charges agints him . because crime has to STOP ! Teri .

  24. Parent
    September 28, 2012 at 5:12 am

    May I ask why would this family display it all over Facebook in a attempt to gather support if she only got a cut lip? The KCAL9 is doing a story on it tonight at 10 p.m.Would someone honestly invite the press into their house to show the world she only had a cut lip, when it is rumored she had a fractured jaw? I don’t think so. What I am inclined to believe is the Sheriff and School District would do anything to prevent attention and a lawsuit. And to say this boy didn’t know she was a female is ridiculous. This boy knew exactly who she was, so did the rest of the school. Would you really be surprised to learn that a child who is gay and bullied has many enemies? Think about it seriously. Popular football player vs. gay male looking girl. Something tells me the school population is more into laughing and protecting the boy than caring about the girl. Bullied children are not victims of one incident, she probably deals with this daily. I was bullied in school because I moved from the city to the wealthiest community in the State and that makes you a “slut”. Guess what? Everyone knew who I was, everyone. I was harassed daily, lots of times by people I didn’t know. My guess is she had enough, and finally fought back. Cops lying? Happened all the time in my school because their parents were lawyers. My brother was jumped had his jaw broken and wired shut. No charges ever filed. The only skateboarder at school beaten, resulting in broken leg,2 broken arms, and broken jaw (wired shut) in front of the principal. Charges filed none. They were football players for the State champs. I bet all you doubters would feel different if you had experienced this or it was your child. Why would they cry out for media attention if it was false? A fractured jaw looks nothing like a cut on the lip. Plus like others have noted this story is completely different from other reporting. Even the age of the boy. Either way the whole world is aware and watching. Heads up Lancaster, if you are trying to cover up this story, many will be demanding answers.

    • Laura
      September 28, 2012 at 7:27 am

      But… The Family isn’t displaying it all over FB, everyone else it. The exact same post is being re-posted over and over again by people all over the world now. It’s quite disturbing that everyone is assuming that one anonymous FB post is 100% true.

      • Jenna
        September 28, 2012 at 7:37 am

        Actually her aunt has written to The Ellen DeGeneres Show with the same story that everyone else is sharing on Facebook.

        • Marc
          September 28, 2012 at 2:08 pm

          And, how do you know that “her Aunt has written to the Ellen DeGeneres show”?? Where did you hear this from?? Some other FaceBook email? or from some random text message from a friend? lol. Not to say it isn’t true.. But the point is, its very easy for rumors to spread.. and each rumor that is passed gets changed a word or two at a time.. So, by the time it gets to 50 people, the story has taken on a life of its own and barely resembles the original..

          • Joseph
            September 28, 2012 at 3:21 pm

            I can vouch. That aunt is a high school friend of mine!

          • R U Serious
            October 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm

   it’s the whole family in on the attention needing..funny it still hasn’t aired on any of the proclaimed news stations and here we are a week later. as a matter of fact, i hear that she returned to school today, no wired jaw, no bruises, no nothing.

    • Rose
      September 28, 2012 at 7:59 am

      Thank you for the support, and I am sorry that you have experienced a similar situation. I am aunt of the girl, and we have been trying to get her story heard. The local news is not deep investigation, instead they are attempting to discredit the story so it will go away. Any support will help in our efforts to spread the news. We have contacted other news stations outside of the Antelope Valley.

      • Michelle Egberts
        September 28, 2012 at 8:43 am

        @ Rose… If there is misconduct on behalf of the LASD Deputies, there is an agency that will refer you to the proper individuals to make a citizen misconduct complaint, and oversee the investigation on behalf of the citizen making the complaint.

      • Michelle Egberts
        September 28, 2012 at 8:49 am

        @ Rose… Contact Inside Edition, that will give you national exposure 212-817-5555

      • Angel
        September 28, 2012 at 10:15 am

        I hope that your neice gets justice! That is terrible what has happend to her! Im sure its much more then what they want everyone to know! Seems like alot of schools are like this! Just because hes a football player hes excused from hitting a girl and, I believe I read fracturing her jaw.. And just because shes gay they choose to side with him? So basically they are saying shes not important because shes a lesbian? I hope you get world wide media attention! This story deserves to be herd and the school officials need to fix what they have done! Good luck with everything! Im sure its going to be a long hard road but hopefully in the end itll be worth it!!

        • Brittany
          September 28, 2012 at 11:15 am

          @Angel, I’m sure the fact that she is supposedly “gay” is not the reason the school disciplned her as well. So what if he is a football player? If she was ballsy enough to strike first|back out of anger & not “self defense” then they both deserve to be suspended. Male or Female does NOT exucse someone from reaping consequences for their behavior.

          • Lauren
            September 28, 2012 at 11:37 am

            @brittany. When I was 16 i was suspended from for a week. A girl punched me in the face and knocked my head to the locker until it started to bleed. Just because I got kissed by her ex boyfriend. All I did was punch her once in the stomach. The only mark she had a bruise. There were video cameras and witnesses and blood streaming down the back of my head that said she started it. The school does not care about self defense. You are supposed to let the school pull them off of you. You are not allowed to participate in a fight at all self defense or not. The school district sided with the school. The news lies everyday to cover up things. This young lady could’ve been using self defense. The school wouldn’t care one bit.

      • Sandi
        September 28, 2012 at 10:24 am

        ROSE – regardless of what the media, local school or law enforcement authorities do or don’t do, if your niece feels she was the victim in this incident, and that she was attacked because of her sexual orientation, she needs to call the Hate Crimes National Network at 206-350-4283. Our new federal hate crime law is meant to address exactly this kind of situation. More info at:

      • Sarah
        September 28, 2012 at 1:59 pm

        I might believe you and your families story if I get some proof. No photos, no witness accounts, nothing. Just an extremely emotionally heavy facebook thing going around saying she suffered “multiple concussions” and had a “fractured jaw” for being gay. Proof? Anyone? Anyone? Or are we all sheep just ready to jump on the bandwagon because a gay person MIGHT HAVE been beaten by a football player?

        Again – show me anything other than speculation that shows this news story isn’t what really happened and I’ll consider believing you. Until then, you sound like an angry family looking to destroy someone’s life over a fight she started just because he hit her back. If you’re making this up, I hope you feel ashamed for getting your 15 minutes of fame (and no doubt money if it comes to blow) at the expense of an innocent boy’s life. Disgusting.

        • Sarah
          September 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm

          Oops- family’s*

        • Jason
          September 28, 2012 at 4:02 pm

          I hope they meant multiple contusions and not multiple concussions. You can only get one concussion at a time.

    • Richard Rodriguez
      September 28, 2012 at 8:20 am

      So if the truth turns out to be the school and cops are not liars, will you write a scathing comment about gay bullies picking on jocks? Or will you accuse the reporter of being anti gay.

    • Brittany
      September 28, 2012 at 11:08 am

      I read the similar posts on Facebook and decided to look it up on the news. Seems as though someone is very confused about what actually happened during this fight. I am so sick of people claiming to G|L or pulling out that G|L card whenever they don’t get their way & are pissy about something. It is absolutely pathetic and these kids are in serious need of attention & medical help. It seems as though people are using the “well I’m Gay” line for fifteen minutes of fame and some sort of excuse phrase, just like other people try to blame their misfortunes on race & skin color.

    • Nick
      September 29, 2012 at 6:28 pm

      You realize this kid wasn’t a popular football player, right? He was 5′ 5″ 15 year old kid, people are too dumb.

  25. Samantha Escobar
    September 28, 2012 at 2:52 am

    I find it utterly fascinating (though not surprising) that the AV Press AND Sheriff’s Dept. managed to omit such a GLARINGLY important detail. The female student is gay, based on multiple well-publicized visual accounts this male football player blatantly used violence to resolve what should have been a microscopically insignificant verbal altercation. While I understand (based on your obviously un-biased, non-homophobic eye witnesses) that it was the female student that initiated the physical altercation (which was also incorrect to do) I am having a very hard time believing that all the male student did was “complain” about the other, uninvolved teenage girl. Really? A verbal “complaint” enraged another student SO much that she felt her only recourse was to come to the defense of another young lady by physically pushing the male student? What a conveniently innocuous way to describe the incident for the football player. I also found it quite interesting that out of the “many student witnesses” there was not a single direct quote used in this article. I understand the majority, if not all, of them are minors but a reputable source like the AV Press could have easily gotten students’ parents to sign waivers therefore allowing for some actual eye-witness accounts to be read and interpreted by your readers. This story is all over FB (I’m in Kentucky but a former resident of the AV) and I still managed to catch wind of this. This was a controversial fight because one of the students, the female that received the most serious injuries, is a GAY female. Next time you are going to attempt to “clear the air” with a story please take some time to research ALL the facts. Don’t call this a “controversial” fight in a way that does not elucidate on a very important fact and DON’T omit the fact that many people in YOUR community are referring to this as a hate crime. You could have thrown in “alleged” hate crime in an effort to remain “neutral and unbiased” but it is still being viewed by some as precisely that: a football player that beat up a gay girl. Let the chips fall as they may but please don’t publish information as “reputable and thoroughly investigated” without presenting ALL the facts.

    • D Drake
      September 28, 2012 at 3:12 am

      I profoundly disagree with you. Just like the race of the two students should not be mentioned, their sexual preference should not be mentioned either! Unless this boy was fighting her while yelling homophobic slurs, then how can it possibly be classified as a hate crime? This was a schoolyard fight between two students that has been blown up to satisfy an agenda, and I think it’s sad.

      Reputable media sources should not fan the tabloid flames. These accusations are coming from the girls family, none of whom witnessed what happened. All the other witnesses are backing the sheriffs version of the events, so why criticize the media for refusing to report unsubstantiated rumors???

      • Samantha Escobar
        September 28, 2012 at 7:04 am

        That’s why I suggested for the AV Press to get direct quotes from actual eye-witnesses. Notice I didn’t say, “you should ask the girl’s family what they think about this”. I, too, want to know what actually happened. And I want to hear it from the people that actually saw what happened for themselves. And like any credible story, I would like for these eye-witness accounts to match up and remain consistent. “Believing he had just been pushed by a male student , the 15- year old punched the 17-year old in the face,” to me almost implies that because the 15-year old thought he was punching another guy that it somehow made his reaction to it (punching her in the face) justifiable, which it’s not. Ever. I thought I was quite clear in my response that I would like an unbiased, fact-based account of what actually happened published by the AV Press. To clarify I’ll just reiterate I mentioned that I would like SOME of the apparently multiple accounts of what happened. I don’t know about you, but I like to hear news “straight from the horse’s mouth” and I’d like to believe that my media sources have the faith in my ability to read and make my own inferences based on first-hand facts and not “unsubstantiated rumors”. Actually, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say I didn’t say that at all in my response. I think , no wait, I know I even threw the word “alleged” hate crime in there…just so that people like you could remain steadfast in your belief that the AV Press and/or Sheriff’s department does actually provide unbiased reports. Why would they lead with “controversial fight” in the title of the piece and then conveniently not mention what sparked the controversy to begin with? They had no problem mentioning that she was dressed like a male student (which in essence justified the boy’s inappropriate response) so why did they omit the reason why she was dressed like a guy? Also, how big is Lancaster HS these days? I went to Littlerock HS and, if I do recall correctly, I’m pretty sure that in that environment where being “normal” is the status quo and anyone outside that box of “acceptable behavior” is ostracized for daring to be different; well, I’m pretty sure most students knew who “those people” were. Maybe they didn’t know the person as a friend or acquaintance but they knew why they “didn’t belong.” Again, I just find it fascinating and also a bit intriguing that out of all the students in that lunch line not a one of them knew the student was a female because she “dressed like a male”. Nobody yelled for the male student to stop because he was in fact, beating up a female, according to this article because this girl was so amazingly talented at dressing like a male (and apparently avoiding the girl’s bathroom for like, ALL of high school) that the male student simply “didn’t know”. It’s just terribly convenient. That’s all I’m calling into question. And maybe the way the news is now reported in CA in the year 2012 it’s suddenly not kosher to mention ethnicity or race, or in this case sexual orientation BUT my entire life as a native CAlifornian I distinctly remember media outlets specifically mentioning these details, especially when the crime was committed by the “minority” as part of their coverage. And this isn’t a biased or unsubstantiated rumor intended to fan the flames, it’s based on actual first-hand experience. While you may not think this is a hate crime, and just to make sure we’re both on the same page here-I’m not saying that it is, the FACT that the female student Is GAY and the FACT that MANY people (whomever they may be) are alleging that this could be (emphasis on COULD) a possible hate crime-those are facts not unsubstantiated rumors. All I’m asking is for ALL the facts to be presented to me so that I can then discern what actually happened for myself. I want my media to give me the tools to figure out HOW to think. I don’t want to be spoon-fed WHAT to think. That’s all I’m saying. Pardon me for not being clear enough for you in my initial response.

        • get over it
          September 28, 2012 at 7:45 am

          If you want to hear from eye witnesses, go to the Lancaster HS.. Facebook page. Plenty of first hand accounts there!

        • Tom
          September 28, 2012 at 12:02 pm

          Contrary to your thoughts, not everyone knows who everyone else in school is. I’ve personally known someone, very much like the girl in this case, for years before ever finding out that she was actually a girl and not a guy. She dressed like a guy, acted like a guy, talked like a guy, so if you didn’t know her personally, you would’ve never known that it was actually a girl. In fact, I could probably count the number of people who actually knew that she was a girl with just my two hands.

          Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that the girl in this case is in the wrong, but I’m also not saying the guy was wrong. It was a just a matter of situational perception, and with the current situation, the girl was perceived to be a guy.

          She initiated the fight, he retaliated. As a guy (and/or a jock maybe even), he probably relatiated to keep his social image up knowing kids these days.

        • September 28, 2012 at 1:38 pm

          your right what did this girl just move into the school that no one knew who she was i think not… so as u said everyone knew who she was still didnt care… the kid knew she was female but still hit her and now trying to play it off as he didnt know thats bull

        • September 30, 2012 at 1:10 pm

          Agirl has the RIGHT to dress the way she wants to no matter where it is and should not be called a GAY ! And the kids in school now it was a girl not a guy . Because in school the kids now one another and now what grade they are in . She happened to be my cousin to . And crine needs to STOP ! Teri .

          • realitycheck
            September 30, 2012 at 1:48 pm

            WOW Teri! Apparently you didn’t graduate from 3rd grade, as evidenced by your horrific grammar and spelling! Nobody here is saying she doesn’t have the right to dress however she wants. The point is you don’t have the right to punch someone, looking like a man, and expect him not to fight back! Tell your “play cousin” to get over him(her)self!

      • marie
        September 28, 2012 at 9:07 am

        Why does it seem like Nome of you dumb ass people who seem to think this [removed] is ok have no kids or have little boys… If your daughter was hit by some guy wouldn’t you care? Or is this [removed] ok because your husbands or boyfriends beat the [removed] out of you so its just normal behavior these days? It’s not about her being gay… It’s the principle of the matter. All of you who think that [removed] is ok sound so [removed] dumb.

        • marie
          September 28, 2012 at 9:12 am


        • jones
          September 28, 2012 at 10:56 am

          i agree no girl should be hit by boys and conversely girls should not act like boys in that if a girl wants to start a fight and then retreat to but i’m a girl, sorry to late for that, you give a punch or a shove expect it back. now just for arguement sake what if this “football player” who is fifteen is actually only 5′-2″ and weighs 120 pounds and this “gay ” girl is 17 years old 5′-10″ and weighs 180 pounds. because these facts are not divulged in the story so when the story reads as the girl is the first agressor and mutual combat ensues sorry she can’t retreat to ” but I’m a girl” and yes I have little girls and tell them the same thing if you are going to start something you better be able to handle the consequences. whether it’s a girl or a boy.

      • Dawn O
        September 28, 2012 at 9:51 am

        Gay, straight or otherwise……boys do NOT hit girls EVER!!! If your daughter got punched in the face you’d be pissed too!

        • Palmdale_Steve
          September 28, 2012 at 9:58 am


          Yes I would pissed at first, but then I would seek the truth. If my daughter was the instigator, I’d be a whole lot less pissed. I beleive in gender equality, and women/girls are free to be the aggressor at any time and then suffer the consequences of their own actions, regardless of their gender.

          • Ash
            September 28, 2012 at 12:10 pm

            Then you must be a woman abuser too!!!!

          • Jason
            September 28, 2012 at 4:05 pm

            How is he a woman abuser? Hes not advocating going out and beating up women just to do it. Why is it ok for a woman to initiate physical violence against a man but if he retaliates hes a bad guy? If a woman initiates it and gets punched back thats her fault for initiating the confrontation.

        • Palmdale_Steve
          September 28, 2012 at 10:00 am


          One more factoid, the aggressor in this event had 3 years and 20 pounds on 14 year old boy and self identifies by dressing and acting as a male.

          Who was the bully here?

        • josh
          September 28, 2012 at 10:09 am

          So girls can beat anybody they want? Let’s not forget that SHE no matter if she’s gay or not hit him first. Now I’m by any means agreeing with beating women. But if my daughter got in a fight for being an asshole then…. she shouldn’t have been an asshole. Damn it like people pull a race, gay, or any form of minority card to get away with [removed]. Its bull[removed].

          • josh
            September 28, 2012 at 10:11 am

            Not agreeing*

          • eugenia
            September 28, 2012 at 3:05 pm

            so sick of these females who think that they can go around hitting males and expect not to get hit back because they are females i teach my kids that boys shouldnt hit girls but girls also should not hit boys its unfair that females are aloud to beat up and put their hands on a male and nothing done to them if u are a female and u want to be treated like a man and look like a man and act like a man and if u hit a man expect to get hit back take it like a man dont cry becuase someone wasnt going to stand around and be assualted .these “females” think they are tough because they can hit men and most will take it and not hit back as soon as someone hits them back they wanna cry i am girl ..

  26. Natashia Holte
    September 27, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    As a retired teacher from Antelope Valley high school I must say I am not surprised by the response from the Sheriff or the school. In my opinion they try to avoid an incident being reported outside the confines of the school or district. I have had objects thrown at my head, in front of a security guard and they did nothing. A substitute teacher in my class said that he received two threats from a student in the same class period and after sending him to security the student was returned to class by the AP without any penalty at all.

  27. Rose
    September 27, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Wow!!! Sounds like the sheriff deputies wrote this article themselves. How does an agency (Los Angeles Sheriff) go from being in the “hot spot” because of their inability to properly deal with a crime, to suddenly encouraging any information on this incident. I’m starting to think that they either have a great P.R. agent or they might really control this news entity (AV Times). Either way, it isn’t true! The facts aren’t just false, they are completely different than the first story that the Sheriff’s Department provided Time Warner, on Wednesday’s interview. Regardless, the truth of what really occurred on that Tuesday, will be exposed by taking the necessary legal steps.

    • Letlow
      September 28, 2012 at 12:43 am

      Umm, the sheriffs did write the article themselves. The article says that it is a press release from the sheriffs.

      I too, think there is more to this story, but until I actually hear it from actual eyewitnesses to the incident, I cannot cosign with a bunch of pot stirrers.

      I commend the AV Times for not spreading he-say-she-say propaganda and giving us an unfiltered version from an official source. What possible motive could the sheriffs have for wanting to distort the story?

      If you know of a factual version of the story that contradicts the sheriffs accounts, then why don’t you post it here in the comments? If I was wrong, I would be the first to say it.

      • marie
        September 28, 2012 at 9:09 am

        Ummm wouldn’t be the first time some cops were caught up in lies & bull[removed]. Not all cops are good ones… & if you think that your dumb as [removed]

        • Sarah
          September 28, 2012 at 2:08 pm

          Anddd it also wouldn’t be the first time someone got in a legit fight and threw the gay/lesbian card to get sympathy, press coverage and cause problems.

          Just because SOME cops lie doesn’t mean ALL cops lie. Just because a story has been shown to be made up or lied about doesn’t mean this one is!

          I’m yet to see anything factual for the claims her family is making. The say she had a broken jaw, went to the hospital, had multiple concussions. There is, surely, photographs and doctor’s records, then. The eye-witnesses surely will be on her side, then, saying the man beat the pulp out of her for being a lesbian, right? Why am I seeing zero proof of this being a “cops are caught up in BS” case if it is?

          If it turns out that they are covering up, I will sympathize and take sides with the girl. Until then, I will believe what is presented and seems more factual than “omg he hit her for being lesbian! She needs justice!”

  28. teshi
    September 27, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    There is a wild “Hate Crime” version of this story going around on FB about this incident! The AV Times should investigate this more and put a more detailed report out, either way, a guy fighting a girl, is uncalled for! Granted she should have never put her hands on him, BUT he should have more respect for females, and should have walked away. He will now be labeled a Bully, abusive and see this female around school, maybe her family too. What a mess! She should have thought about the outcome also, putting your hands on someone does not end well at all! Both Lose and both are now facing “Battery” charges over lunch!! Wow!!

    • Shelby
      September 27, 2012 at 10:45 pm

      Well I don’t think its appropriate for a guy to hit a girl by any means HOWEVER in this particular case it was truly a case of mistaken identity. She looks like a guy…NOONE was judging her for hpw she looked.She got in this boys face..pushed him and proceeded to fight with him. It was only AFTER the fight he and the surrounding students realized this he..was actually a she. This young man felt terrible and still does that he put his hands on a girl.Everyone keeps dwelling on the fact that he hit her how about the fact she put hands on him first? Thats ok? Why because she is a “girl”? I’m sorry she got a fat is unfortunate however to try and ruin his life because she made a choice and got hit back. You look like a man, you want to fight like a man and unless you pulled your pants down to show him you are a young lady he can only assume you must be a man. By 17 you oughta know a little bit better than to put your hands on someone else.Human nature is fight or flight…usually fight! So lets just leave this kid alone.

      • Amanda
        September 28, 2012 at 12:12 am

        So violence is allowed is what you are saying? Wow listen to yourself! Do you have kids? If you do would you be ok with them getting hurt! I sure hope you are just a dumb teenager and not an ignorant adult! Seriously, regardless about the sex of the kids, or sexuality, VIOLENCE should not be tolerated!!

        • Sarah
          September 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

          The ignorance..

          SHE started the violence. She did. Her. The “lesbian” in question started the violence.

          Nowhere does this person condone the violence, but simply stand up for the fact that she put her hands on him first, and we shouldn’t just excuse her of that because she’s female. If you want to act big and bad like a dude, you should expect to get hit back. She was older than the guy! If violence shouldn’t be tolerated, they should suspend them both and move on with their lives, just like they do with every fight between two girls or two guys. The only reason this is getting coverage is the gender difference, which is ridiculous since the GIRL started it. This poor boy is having his life ruined because a girl wanted to start something and just walk away from it because she was a girl. It’s ridiculous. Had he punched her first I would be siding with her, but if I walk up to a boy 2 years younger than me and shove him hard enough for him to fall back onto a rail, I’m going to expect some kind of retaliation. It also says that punches were exchanged between both students, meaning she continued to fight. They’re equally at fault, suspend them, move on.

      • Danielle
        September 28, 2012 at 2:53 am

        How is It mistaken identity when he said “he got hit in the chest” he was obviously facing right at her…smh! Makes no sense and I’m pretty sure he knew whether or not it was a female or male…I mean come on were his eyes closed the whole time? I don’t think so

    • Phil
      September 27, 2012 at 10:47 pm

      If you saw her there would be no way you’d think she was female. She looks completely male.

      • Kelli
        September 28, 2012 at 3:00 am

        I agree, she’s a dyke lesbian. It was a misunderstanding. Kids fight, get over it.

        • jonelle
          September 28, 2012 at 5:05 am

          wow…a dyke lesbian????no wonder we still live in a ignorant world. no you as well as i know that when there is a kid in school that is different everyone knows who that kid is. just because she might look like a male is no excuse. you cant tell me tgat most if not all of kids know exactly who the girl is, and know she is not a male….pull your pants down to prove???? even more ignorant than the kid that hit her saying he didnt know she was female…..WOWppl. no she shouldn’t of put her hands on him either, but maybe she was just so fed up with the crap. who knows actually what this kid said to the girl about cutting in line…but regardless he should’ve walked away..

          • From Pa
            September 28, 2012 at 8:41 am

            You said, ”she’s a dyke lesbian” and I see that other kids or students say the same thing about her. Well it sounds like HATE AND BULLYING TO ME. Seems to me the students at Lancaster High knew EXACTLY that she was a girl and the more I see people call her a dyke or a lesbian the more I’m convinced this is a HATE CRIME. The family should press charges on ALL who is involve because it’s clear that the male student knew she was a guy female!

      • marie
        September 28, 2012 at 9:02 am

        Ok be she looked like a dude or not the fact is she is a female dumb ass.

    • Laura
      September 27, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      I cant abide double standards. To expect a male should have more respect for a female is ludicrous. People should have more respect for each other. If a girl thinks she tough enough to physically confront a boy like this she better be tough enough for him to fight back. If this was two girls fighting we would have never heard about it. Kids is HS fight, it’s wrong, they get punished. That’s true equality.

      • marie
        September 28, 2012 at 9:00 am

        Do you have a daughter? If so, if she was hit by a guy how would you react? Would you think it was ok? Maybe you should get your ass beat one good time by some guy & then come back and tell us how you feel.

        • Palmdale_Steve
          September 28, 2012 at 9:05 am

          If my daughter was stupid enough to attack another student, male or female, she would have to suffer the consequences.

          Pretty simple stuff.

          • marie
            September 28, 2012 at 9:16 am

            No matter what I’ve done even if I was the one who started it my mother & father always had my back. & they didn’t let someone beat my ass & think that shit was ok. So her family is doing what a family is supposed to do….have her back

          • Tobias W.
            September 28, 2012 at 9:26 am

            this “marie” sounds like another ghetto hood rat. “he got my back”, “i got her back”, “she got his back”…nice display of ghetto logic!

          • marie
            September 28, 2012 at 9:34 am

            Actually no I’m not a “ghetto hood rat” I am a very well educated lady that works in a law off. However my parents always had my back as a parent is supposed to for their children. As a parent your supposed to stand by your children & make sure they don’t hurt anyone or get hurt by someone. Yes the girl was in the wrong for putting her hands on the boy but he should have never hit her.

          • Matt K.
            September 28, 2012 at 9:48 am

            Does your boss know that you spend your time on the Internet use crude and filthy language? That sort of behavior is not the hallmark of an educated person.

          • marie
            September 28, 2012 at 10:11 am

            Well if I was at work today I wouldnt be online, I would be working. & yes my bosses all know I used “crude” language. As they all use it too. Just because someone says a bad Word doesn’t mean they aren’t educated people. I don’t understand how so many people can think that It’s ok for a male to it a female regardless of her sexual preferences or because she is a “tom boy”
            Like I said she was in the wrong also. If your children were being picked on because they were different wouldn’t that bother you? Wouldn’t it hurt you to see your child hurting?

          • Jessie
            September 28, 2012 at 11:09 am

            Marie, you make my head hurt. You’re looking at it completely because she’s a female. If it was a male who started it, would you still be protecting the instigator? While the fight was wrong no matter who was involved and should not have progressed, the fact is simple, she started it. I don’t condone either person’s actions, but as other’s have mentioned, the person who started the fight cannot then turn around and cry because they got hurt from it. The fight wouldn’t have happened if she didn’t shove him first.

          • marie
            September 28, 2012 at 11:48 am

            Ok let me ask you this… If it was a “straight” female instead of a “gay” female & she was dressed like a female instead of like a boy & carried herself differently then she did but was still the first one to throw the first punch & he hit back would you all look at it differently? I think if she was a “normal” (in your eyes) female & would have hit him & got hit back this would be a whole lot different.

        • Tobias W.
          September 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm

          she shouldnt have cut in line in the first place. That is MISTAKE #1. MISTAKE #2, she should expect to be confronted when she cuts in the lunch when other people have been standing there and waiting. WHO DOES THAT? a 5 yr old? MISTAKE #3, someone rightfully confronts you for cutting in line and then you haul off and sock them for it? That’s just plain GHETTO! oh yeah and a BIG MISTAKE on her part because that’s what landed her in the hospital!

          She’s childish but yet she still thinks she is man enough to hit a football player who probably works out every week. Big NO NO on her part!

          • marie
            September 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm

            As I said they were BOTH in the wrong. Yet I feel if she was some cute cheerleader or some cute girl & the same thing would have happened everyone would be looking at the boy as if he was some kind of woman beater but because she is a female that carries herself as a male she is in the wrong & he is being justified in what he did. That’s bull[removed].
            & do you even know what “ghetto” is because you seem to like to use that frase a lot

          • Samantha Escobar
            September 28, 2012 at 1:02 pm

            Tobias did you actually read the article? Another female student cut in line and the female “suspect/victim” then pushed the male “suspect/victim”. And maybe a thesaurus may be in order for you as the only word in your offensive vernacular is “ghetto”. Just a suggestion.

          • julie
            September 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm

            im sure if this was a cheerleader it would be the same instead of calling him a women beater, hes called a bully. she got beat up because she pushed him so hard that he fell and hit his back agains a railing. and to make matters worse IT WASNT EVEN HER PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH! she got into a problem that wasnt hers and pushes a kid AND THROWS THE HE HIT ME CUZ IM LESBIAN SHIT. shame shame shame. and i know what ghetto is…and what she did certainly was not classy

          • marie
            September 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm

            Doesn’t make it “ghetto” & no I’m pretty sure if she was a popular girl or cheerleader or just an average female this would be looked at a lot differently. When I was in school BOTH parties would have gotten kicked out of school & this would have been no big deal just two kids fight …. Again they were both in the wrong & should both be held accountable for their actions. It’s like everyone is justifying what he did & that is simply just dumb.

          • CaptainObvious
            September 28, 2012 at 4:51 pm

            Ok, to sum this all up:
            1. marie is a ghetto hoodrat.
            2. She believes that “having her kids’ back” is being a good parent, when in reality, teaching your kids good manners and respect is truly good parenting, not “having their back” (ghetto speak) on all their bad decisions.
            3. marie proved her hoodrat-ness when she said she HAS hit men in anger, and if the man had hit back, her brothers would have “beat the [removed] out of him.”
            4. marie was obviously not liked in school, wears boxers, and has a deep rooted hatred of the cute cheerleaders!

        • julie
          September 28, 2012 at 1:36 pm

          i did hit a boy like a dumb ass and luckily the boy didnt hit back, but looking back i wouldnt blame him if he did cuz i was asking for it. and guess mom punished me and told me to NEVER hit anyone ESPECIALLY a man cuz u never know how they react and that i was being stupid. with that said..she asked to get hit. but i will say this they BOTH need to get into trouble period.

          • marie
            September 28, 2012 at 1:54 pm

            I have hit a man in anger but better believe if he ever hit me back my 4 brothers would have beat the shit out if him. Most females hit way less harder then a male does. She couldn’t have hurt him all that bad. & if she did maybe his patents should have taught him to be a little bit tougher. When I’ve been mad & hit my husband he has been man enough to walk away from the situation & like I said not all females hit very hard but my dad trained all of his kids to box so I know I hit like very hard yet my husband is still man enough to walk away

          • marie
            September 28, 2012 at 1:57 pm


      • Sarah
        September 28, 2012 at 2:33 pm

        If women want equality, this kind of garbage needs to stop. You cannot start something physical and then think you have the right to go after the other person because they hit you back solely because you are a girl. If you want to start a fight with a boy, you should expect to be hit back. A school fight, get over it. Suspend them both, move on.

        Just because she is a female doesn’t mean she should be able to walk around starting physical altercations. My parent’s made it clear to me when I was young that if I wanted to start something I better be prepared to step up to the plate, even if it was with a boy. Having the anatomy of a female doesn’t give me the right to special treatment if I’m the one starting the fight. Period. SHE started it, he defended himself, THEY continued to throw punches. Suspend them, move on.

        • marie
          September 28, 2012 at 3:35 pm

          I never said she was justified in doing it because she was a female. I said they were both wrong. But what a puss to get butt hurt cuz he got pushed or hit by a female. It was more of a prideful thing. she hit him in front of a bunch of people so he felt he should hit her back. Again what puss. A real man won’t hit a female no matter the what the case is. Bitch made boys that think they are men do shit like that.

          • donald
            September 28, 2012 at 8:33 pm

            Hey Marie do us all a favor and stop comparing these kids to grown ups i dont think any guy was a real man at 14 15 years old or a girl a real woman at 17 instead of making matters worse for these kid Pray for em please instead of negative talk and that goes for every body thank you and be blessed.

          • Tim
            December 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm

            Marie, you’re an idiot. This “girl” was dressed and acting like a man. She is 17 and outweighs the boy by 30 pounds. He is a freshman and doesn’t know her from burnt toast. She shoves him into a metal rail that he almost fell over, and when he comes back up, she and her girlfriend (who looks like a girl) are both swinging on him He goes after the one he thinks is a dude, and never touches the one that he knows is a girl.

            When he found out he was fighting a girl, he felt terrible, because he obviously has more integrity than this “girl” and her family. SHE fronted herself as a male, SHE initiated the assault, and SHE kept fighting after she started it. All this young man did was defend himself from what he thought was an older, heavier guy who just jumped him.

            Over 40 EYEWITNESSES corroborated the boy’s account. SNOPES has posted the truth. You keep arguing for a lie that has leaky facts. Get a clue!

      • September 30, 2012 at 1:13 pm

        Yes they shouls if it is the outher ones FALT . Teri .

        • Hector
          September 30, 2012 at 2:18 pm

          You been drinkin a little today??? Nice grammar and sentence structure.

          • [Removed] Paleez
            October 1, 2012 at 8:08 pm

            Lol…thank you Hector!

          • Hector
            October 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm

            No problem Knee….just doing my part!

  29. AVEMT
    September 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    “Both students were suspended by the school.”
    I understand (through experience of being a parent in this valley) that the school districts here have a “ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY” IE: Any Violence on school property = EXPULSION… Even when defending yourself from an attacker… So, my question is Where IS the “Zero Tolerance Policy” here? Expel both.

    • SPED Teacher
      September 27, 2012 at 9:36 pm

      Usually fights in the high school district get 3-5 days depending on the severity of the fight and the injuries. On a case by case basis they will determine if the students need to be expelled. There is more to it than just a “zero tolerance” policy.

      • AVEMT
        September 28, 2012 at 8:04 am

        I beg to differ. My son was EXPELLED after being jumped by 3 (THREE!) students after school. He defended himself (as I taught him to). He went to security FIVE times about these boys & NOTHING was done. I was told by the principal that ZERO tolerance (whether he was the instigator or just defending himself) is why my son was being expelled.

        • teshi
          September 28, 2012 at 1:53 pm

          Press charges against the boys, and hire a lawyer to sue the school! You have proof of these situations, then you have a case. Some do have Zero tolerance, do you think that you child was treated fairly? If not ten why push this Zero Tolerance onto others? Why not be active in pushing for better treatment of Bullied youth? Regulations that protect students and create change? Is it easier to just sit and read these stories and demand the same unjust treatment as your son, rant and rave about how your incident should be the same for others?
          So what happened with you and your son? He home schooled? Place in a Continuation school? Relocated? How is he adjusting? And how does he feel about all this?

          • Sarah
            September 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm

            Agreed. If this is a legit story, you surely have proof and can make a legal case against these boys, and against the school. Any judge would be hard-pressed to take the other kids’ side, unless you are omitting facts. As you’ve told it, you should have made a case, and that’s the only way you’d ever get change put into place!

          • Barbara Jones
            September 28, 2012 at 10:59 pm

            I watched that girl grow up and she went to school with my daughter. She is a good kid. Now she is 17 years old 5 ft 10 weighs 180 lbs. How could he not know she is a female. Big women have generally big breasts. So I call bull crap that he didnt know she was a female. Yes her jaw is bad and he had no business putting his hands on her under no circumstances. The school is also responsible for the children while they are on campus. The school district should face some reprecussion for not protecting their students.

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