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LA County bans official travel to Texas, Florida over LGBTQ+ policies

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Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis

LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously Tuesday to suspend all official travel to Texas and Florida due to highly publicized policies directed at LGBTQ+ youth and families.

The motion by Supervisors Sheila Kuehl and Hilda Solis called for the suspension of all travel to the states except for instances when failing to authorize such a trip “would seriously harm the county’s interests.”

The move came in response to measures taken in both states that have made headlines.

In Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott ordered that gender-affirming treatments provided to transgender youth be investigated as child abuse. The declaration has led health providers in that state to suspend the treatments. In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis recently signed into law the Parental Rights in Education Bill, which restricts instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity in early grades. Critics have dubbed the measure the “Don’t Say Gay” law.

In their motion, Kuehl and Solis said the Texas order “flies in the face of all that we know about best practices when it comes to supporting children and young adults to discover who they are and feel secure in their sense of self.”

“… Caregivers who support youth with affirming care should in no way be labeled as abusive,” according to the motion. “This order is discriminatory, harmful and just plain cruel.”

They contend the Florida law will “perpetuate a culture of bullying, secrecy, shame and fear.”

“Schools should be spaces that foster open discussion, critical thinking, meaningful engagement and the safe exploration of ideas,” they wrote. “The implementation of this bill would create an atmosphere that stifles such a culture and stifles learning itself.”

Abbott’s declaration last month followed an opinion issued by that state’s attorney general declaring that gender-affirming treatments fall under the category of child abuse under state law. Abbott then ordered the state to investigate any instances of minors undergoing “elective procedures for gender transitioning.”

In Florida, DeSantis has defended that state’s legislation, saying it “showed a commitment to education, not to indoctrination.”

“As the parent of three kids that are aged 5 and under, thank you for letting me and my wife be able to send our kids to kindergarten without them being sexualized,” DeSantis said.

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117 comments for "LA County bans official travel to Texas, Florida over LGBTQ+ policies"

    • I read it. I don’t remember any gun. If I win, I already have a copy.

      PS: I really liked it. Cool review by Yahoo!

      • You win. Mike just threw that in because of course making stuff up is what he does when he thinks he has a point to make.

  2. I only saw the first line of your post and it contains a lie.

    Or an error. You can always just admit you don’t know what you were talking about there.

  3. By the way, the reason I wrote a book is to make some money for my editor, so any purchase, even by a loser like you, supports a good cause. Available through pretty much all online retailers, in paperback and all (?) e-pub formats.

    • Tim if you really did live part of your life robbing banks, as your book implies, why did you do it? And how do people trust anything you say now?

      • This may be your dumbest post yet.

        Quoting the press release:

        “When asked to comment on his work, Scott simply stated, “Trust me, I’m a bank robber.” While that may sound like a joke to some, Just Robbed a Bank pulls back the curtain to explore the “shadowy world where your word really is your bond.”

        Criminals operate in a world where telling the truth actually matters, while firemen operate in a world where they are boinking each other’s wives and smiling at each other while they lie about it. Which of us do you think has more credibility?

  4. Just some thoughts on all this: I couldn’t care less who someone chooses to love. Some of the finest people I knew and associated with in LA and NYC were gay. Neighbors and co-workers. And I would defend and support the ones I liked, just like any other friend.

    The issue here is that kids that young should have other things on their minds. There’s plenty of time to grow up and be miserable and neurotic like us adults. And parents should have the last and only say in these matters. Teachers work for parents. The woke, socialist, spoiled teachers are out of control. JMHO

    • “Kids that young should have other things on their minds.”

      Really? You think if a classmate has two moms they shouldn’t be curious? What kind of brain death are you looking for in “kids that young”?

      I coached youth soccer and a kid on my team had two moms. Great people all around. Some other parents had issues with their kids asking questions they didn’t know how to answer. I had issues with the way some parents answered their kids’ questions because they were bigoted cretins who desperately wanted to pass on their bigotry and there was no room for that in sports.

      Things worked out, as they always do, but without question if that happened today, in Florida, some brave bigot would be looking for assistance from law enforcement. You think involving the cops makes that better? Really?

      • It’s parents’ jobs, responsibilities and rights to deal with it any way they, the parents, so choose. Period.

        And I don’t care if the parents are 2 men, 2 women, three men and a goat, or whatever. Nature give them those rights and responsibilities. Not wacko leftist, woke, socialist, pierced, unpatriotic, activist losers posing as educators.

        I remember when teachers had class and dignity. They wanted us to learn the fundamentals of education, not woke drivel like gender diversity, CRT, socialism, etc.

        • Any way they like? So the parent that chooses to teach their kid “Hitler gave the Jews what they deserved, and if there are any Jews in your class you light them on fire” and sends them off to school…you okay with that? What if they teach them “but you can’t light people on fire so just beat them up.” How about “but you can’t do that either so just call them names.”

          You can sub in whatever racial slur, religious bigotry, or whatever. Or you can consider that I may well have taught my kids that it was okay to beat the snot out of bigots. You think Mike would be okay with me “exercising my parental rights” and sending them off to school with his kids?

          There’s also an aspect of direct abuse of one’s own kids if they aren’t being prepared to be safe in public. Teach your kid to bully minorities and send them out, and you don’t get to be surprised when the call comes that they got their head cracked. It’s your responsibility, and it comes with the rights everyone is blathering about.

          • It’s always funny to see people like you try to grab onto coattails and scream “whataboutism” or “straw man” or whatever buzzword has crossed your path when you don’t actually know what it means but itch to use it.

          • LOL…that’s your best? You have no answer as to what to do about some kids beating the bigoted snot out of your kids “as their parents rightfully taught them to do,” you just have “hur hur hur, he said Hitler”?

          • Can’t relate. Nobody ever beat me up in school (you met me, get real) and both kids went to Palmdale High and joined the military. Nobody ever beat them up either, LOLOL.

            But any teacher spewing that crap to my kids would have reason to worry, LMFAOROF.

          • Also, kids, or boys at least, will be mean to one another and bully each other over EVERYTHING. They’ll find something. Always been that way. Always will.

          • Hey FWB:

            Is “Gordo Blanco Roberto” you, or an analog or impersonator?

  5. California officials have no business going to those states anyway.

    There should also be a ban on California officials owning property in those states.

    • Yeah, Pelosi ruined our state and then bought a mansion in Florida with dirty money scammed unethically from China and insider stock trading.

      PS Stinger our illustrious fact checker: No, I don’t have any proof on hand but I’d bet the farm I’m right.

  6. It’s disgusting that the LACounty Board of Sup’s have taken a liberal political stance against other states to protest laws in those states.

    We have to ask ourselves why those on the left are fighting so tenaciously to groom our children at the young tender age of 5-8 years old. Since when did it ever become appropriate to introduce a child of that age to any form of sex education. They are barely learning to form sentences and do basic math at 5 years, yet these left wing radicals wish to inject sex, gender, and expression into the minds of these very young and impressionable kids? That sounds very much like pedophelia to me. The only people who should have the authority to speak to young kids about this topic are the parents, period.

    Anyone who supports the agenda to keep LGBTQ education for K-3rd graders is a sexually perverted phedophile. End of story. Decent people need to rise up, regardless of political beliefs, and stand against this atrocious policy. At least the State of Florida had the balls to do it.

    • “Anyone who supports the agenda to keep LGBTQ education for K-3rd graders is a sexually perverted pedophile.”

      Good thing that absolutely no one is doing that. Mike, are you informed with actual facts about ANYTHING at all? You might be the most uninformed poster on this site, and with America’s Most Slavishly Following Fox News that is really saying something.

      • Your not fooling anybody,
        There are endless examples of this occurring,
        Simply covering your eyes with your hands isn’t going to work.

        You will return with some smart Azz comment, and I will then begin to start posting the proof and make you look like a fool.

        • Lemme guess…your “proof” will come from Fox News, et al, right?

          What the actual “fight” is about is that autocrats like DeSantis want to make it a crime to answer the question if some youngster asks “teacher, why does my -fill in name of classmate- have two moms?” As if being a teacher isn’t complicated enough already. But the autocrats, as usual, are running this through their propaganda mill, where it will be devoured by you. They are putting it under this fake headline of “the evil pedophiles are recruiting your kids” because they want to rile up the GOP’s uninformed base of scared knuckleheads…and of course it works, because you refuse real information.

          • You should look at picture Becee drew for you Tim…or should I say, the links they provided you. The pedophile groomers are posting their methods in plain sight for you to see for yourself. That’s your proof. It had nothing to do with a question a student asks a teacher. Teachers are forcing this sexually charged information upon the kids. And even if a child asks a teacher why Timmy has 2 dads, the teacher should instruct the student to have that conversation with their parents, because their parents are responsible for deciding when it’s appropriate to hold that discussion with their child.

            But groomers don’t see it that way.

          • Beecee as usual has consulted aggregators that go find what some lunatic fringer randos are saying on Tictok and present “look!!!! this is what ‘the left’ is REALLY up to!!!” as a way to wind up the GOP’s scared and ignorant base. That’s her usual, exactly as predicted. You having her back says she opposes me, which you will ALWAYS support, not that she’s got a particularly good point.

          • Weak sauce Tim,

            In the past I have gone above and beyond to post evidence from left wing news sources.

            I go above and beyond to post actual video evidence of Bidenflation having brain farts, and leftist teachers openly posting their plans for our children online.

            I used Libs of tik tok for a reason, these folks simply find online evidence that wacko lefties post on their social media and repost it for normies to see, and guess what the normies are waking up to it. And they are getting pissed.

            No wonder why the Washington compost is sending its best lunatic ‘Taylor Lorenz’ to try to silence Libs of tik tok and has spectacularly backfired on her.

            The left has become the lunatic fringer party, enjoy!

          • LOL…you think I don’t know there are lunatics on the fringe of both sides? The difference is that the democrats deal with their lunatic fringe while the GOP puts theirs in charge. That doesn’t change the fact that while there are lunatics on TicTok who I agree may be a threat to your children, making draconian laws to put teachers in even more difficult situations than they already are is NOT a solution, it’s a stunt.

          • “The difference is that the democrats deal with their lunatic fringe while the GOP puts theirs in charge”

            Sure dude,
            You guys literally have a transexual running the HHS.

            Like I said before, your not fooling anybody

          • “A transexual” does not automatically mean a lunatic fringe, and that was a surprisingly bigoted thing to say for you Beecee. I’d expect that from Mike. Can you point to any lunatic fringe actions the person in question has taken?

            On the flip side, the GOP has put in charge an autocrat who attempted to overturn constitutional authority and is itching to try again.

          • Does cutting off one’s peepee and encouraging others to do it count as lunatic fringe action?

            Matter of opinion, but I don’t think nature is pleased.

          • I will wager I know at least ten trans people more than you do, and not one of the trans people that I know has ever encouraged anyone else to be trans. Quite the opposite. You are living in an unwarranted fear fantasy.

          • Just to be clear: Nothing against trans people (except one in particular) at all. AT ALL!! It’s their business, period. Live and let live. C’est la vie.

            They just have to stop pushing it onto society at large because they make up less than 1% of the population.

            The rest of us have rights too! And that includes the right to not have to listen to their constant whining, complaining and promoting their lifestyle to innocent kids.

          • That’s not virtue signaling. That’s pointing out to my friend that as usual he has no real information and I do, so his argument is as usual just dumb.

          • By the way Beecee, every one of those people is a better human than your friend Sonya just “signaled” herself to be. You might try upgrading the company you keep.

          • “By the way Beecee, every one of those people is a better human than your friend Sonya“

            Ya no!
            So I’ll ditch my friend and go find 10 or more trannys to hang out with so I can virtue signal online that I have more mutant friends than you….

            Hard pass.

          • Oh yeah? Well, if I didn’t have dumb arguments, I wouldn’t have any arguments at all.

            Huh?

            This is a provocative thread.

          • I would suggest ditching her because she’s apparently a bigoted POS…but it looks like she’s your type so…

          • Before this thread dies, I suggest reading Tim’s book mentioned above. It’s a great read, and you can gain some insight into our most interesting commenter.

      • Yes Tim Scott. I read the entire Florida House Bill 1557 (Parental Rights in Education). Nowhere in the 7 pages of text does it mention the words, LGBTQ or reference anything related to that community. What is does say is that it’s primary function is to strengthen parental rights, making them the sole decision makers. It further states that kindergarten through 3rd grade students shall not be exposed to any material that is not deemed age appropriate based on state law. (Anyone opposing this is effectively asserting that it’s ok to teach K-3 students about sexually oriented issues). The bill further asserts that schools shall not encourage students to discuss their emotional, physical, mental well being without first notifying the parent. (Currently schools are encouraging students to discuss these matters with the express condition that parents will not be notified if the student requests it.) The bill goes on to establish methods for administering this policy and the process and standards for which any violations will be investigated. THAT IS ALL the bill actually says. Anyone can look it up and read it.

        So for those of you who are so against this bill, I ask again, why do you wish to groom K-3 aged children on sexually oriented matters? What kind of mental perversion do you suffer and what kind of world do you live in wheee that would ever be considered acceptable? Anyone? Anyone?

        • Yeah, but you read it with the eyes of a moron.

          “Process and standards for which any violations will be investigated” is exactly the problem, because as I said if little Joey asks the teacher why his friend Mikey has two moms the teacher is going to be opened up to complaint and investigation no matter how they answer other than “go ask your parents.” And when little Joey comes back to school the next day and tells little Mikey “my dad says your mommies are evil like witches and are gonna burn in hell and so are you” again any response the teacher might have is opening them up to complaint and investigation.

          Florida is notorious for their inability to draft legislation that functions in the real world in anything like the way they claim to expect, just like their version of “stand your ground” turned out to be “pick a fight then act scared and you can kill whoever you want.” That section you so blithely write off as “oh that’s just “methods for administering” is exactly the problem. Well, that and the propaganda machine interpreting it for you…that’s a real problem.

          • No Tim. The problem is that the teachers and schools took it upon themselves to develop a curriculum that includes sexual education for young children while expressly excluding the parents from consenting to the instruction.

            There used to be a day when permission slips were sent home with the child informing the parents that sexual education was going to be taught, and the parent would sign the document authorizing or prohibiting their child from participating in the class.

            But people like you, think you have the power and authority to circumvent the sacred role of the parent by supporting this work agenda. Well you just pissed off millions of American mothers and they are coming for your necks. Don’t ever f*** with momma bear, or have you not heard that expression before.

            As for the stand your ground law, it works exactly like it’s written. It’s only those who violate other peoples sovereignty or who cross the line in applying the law that find themselves injured, dead, or in jail. So if you ask me, that’s an awesome law. Little do you know, California has a very similar laws that in effect amount to a citizens right to stand their ground. Dummy. But, again, we know you don’t give two squats about facts.

          • Robert Tremain Jr are you speaking of the dummy or the moron?

            Tim lost any credibility he may have had when I noticed he digresses to name calling.

          • Name calling is part of the game. Adds flavor and spice. Hard hats and padding required. I even call myself names.

            Lighten up. And how can you complain about that when William’s not here? He was the master of great insults and witticisms.

          • LOL…it always cracks me up when you clowns play the “but wait, Tim called names so NOW I get to ignore his points” card. Where is this noble defense when Beecee is calling William names? How about when DrDimwit FWB is offering “diagnoses” of the mental health of people he has never met? The hypocrisy is so lame in you clowns.

          • America’s Most… is correct. It is unwise to enter into these discussion forums without girding oneself with some solid emotional helmet and padding as it is, indeed, a ‘full-contact’ sport.

            And, yes, the name-calling IS kind of part of the entertainment value. Which is why a particularly good zinger tends to be appreciated by all… even the zingee.

            I would suggest trying to remember that it’s open expression and, truly, an argument form with direct connections to the debates in Colonial America and since. Even the Nom de Plumes have a noble tradition to them. It is, therefore, maintaining an honorable American tradition of free speech in modern times and a privilege to continue that tradition.

      • Hey, I don’t even like Fox News and they won’t let me in their web site. The TV channel is an “outrage machine” with obnoxious hosts designed to divide us and upset us, same as CNN, MSNBC, etc.

        As I’ve said many times, I get my news from Reuters, UPI, Daily Mail (tabloid), AP, National Interest, The Diplomat, Wash Times, and several foreign news sites. So if you are going to ridicule me for being a conservative, at least have your facts right.

        Wait….facts? For a Democrat? What was I thinking?

        PS: There’s plenty of current news on those sites that you won’t like either, lol.

        • Tim:

          You’ve got to get over this obsession you have with Fox News. I don’t watch them but they are not to blame for the country’s troubles. BIDEN IS, and the brainless Democratic voters that elected him.

        • America’s Most Slavishly Conservative

          I share the same opinion of Fox and the alphabet news. My prognoses of Tim is he suffers FNDS as well as TDS.

          • He has his own opinions like everyone else, but Tim’s among the most intelligent people I know, and an interesting gentleman in person.

            Did you ever meet him? Your opinion might change.

          • The issue is that no matter which branch of the poisonous propaganda tree you are getting the fruit from, it all tastes the same. And it’s why we can’t have nice things. We just had a perfect example.

            Florida just gave DISNEY a giant windfall. That’s reality.

            Tucker Carlson, et al, tell you that “DeSantis really stuck it to the libs there, hur hur hur” and you are here crowing about DeSantis the hero.

            Get that straight, they are telling you that DISNEY CORPORATION are “the libs.”

            They are telling you that assuming a massive debt and passing it off to the state is STICKING IT TO THEM.

            At least FWB can figure out that DISNEY CORPORATION may not be exactly “the libs,” which puts him a step ahead of the worst of you. Other than that FWB appears to be a self centered prick that I at this point have no interest in meeting, and that’s saying something because I find almost everyone at least a little interesting.

          • Good policy. You should be required to tell your tenants that before they sign the lease.

      • Is Mike really the QAnon shaman guy with the horned helmet? Inquiring minds want to know.

        Just kidding, Mike.

  7. Ya gotta be good? Lol.

    I don’t believe a damn thing they spew. I am curious what they do or did for employment. I’d bet money neither are self made.

    William strikes me as whacked enough to have worked for USPS. Tim I feel is probably defrauding disability and/or worked for some type of tax eating entity.

      • Beece sounds like someone who hates pensioners because he/she was too ignorant to save for their own retirement.

        • LOL…like county employees “make an intelligent choice” that leads to their pensions…

          90% at least of people who have a pension coming didn’t sign on by choice, it was just the policy of their employer….and most likely they complained all the way.

          • County, city, state, employees make a very cognizant choice to work for those organizations specifically because of the retirement benefits they provide. They forgo sometimes larger private sector take home pay for a government position that offers future security in the form of a pension, health benefits, and additional retirement savings plans (which by the way, most of them invest in as well). For them the trade off is worth the sacrifice in net pay. Most people complain about the civil servant’s pension but none of them would even consider doing the job. That should tell you volumes about the aggrieved.

            So your claim that their choice was void of intellect is short sighted and convoluted, like every point you try to make.

          • “County, city, state, employees make a very cognizant choice to work for those organizations specifically because of the retirement benefits they provide”

            Totally, but as per usual Tim spouts BS,
            I’ll admit I’m a little jelly about gov workers pensions, first responders deserve every bit of it.

            But believe me, I don’t have any issues with retirement/retirement years

    • Wow. Missed by a mile, twice. No surprise there though, considering that you continuously speak out the wrong orifice.

      I worked for UPS one year as a two week Christmas rush helper, by the way. It was fun, and provided an interesting perspective on UPS. Instead of spouting ignorant hare boner nonsense at UPS employees maybe you should try that.

      • Who said anything about UPS. The original poster said they worked for USPS. Tow very different entities. One is run by the government and the other is a publicly traded globally operated company. But hey Tim, we know you could care less about facts!!

        • Wow, missed a letter there…nice catch.

          Of course blowing it up onto making me out as a wild factless knucklehead like yourself is a stretch, but you are you..the rug can’t match you.

          Why’d you drop the libel Mike, I was looking forward to seeing the rest of your fantasies about me.

          • You should invite me over for dinner Tim. I promise I’ll show up. We can talk about whatever you’d like. Including your past.

          • I’ve posted an e-mail address you can use to contact me any time Mike, but you apparently lack something when it comes to face to face contact. Although you continuously try to present otherwise. You might convince Beecee of your bold nature, but a gutless punk can’t convince themselves because they know when they backed down.

          • timshatemail2 at gmx dot com

            I probably won’t give you food, but we can certainly talk if you want.

          • Okay, maybe I overestimated your gullibility. The point is that no matter how he blathers here about “challenging Tim Scott,” at the end of the day Mike knows the only thing that stopped him from having the face to face interaction he always claims to want is himself.

  8. Yikes! Next thing you know, it’ll become a no-fly zone. Anyone attempting to steer clear from the lesbians, gays, bisexual, transgenders, and queers, for the sake of raising their kids the way they feel is best for them, could potentially be shot down by… Lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transexuals, and queers. Seriously? If they want equality and justice in open public places, then they shouldn’t be parasitic about their agendas to those that reject it without hostility. Their travel bans should be meant for their private places and environments if they feel that bigoted. I can see it now, we’ve utilized the Patriot Missile for many years in recent wars, now it’s time for a missile that is more politically correct for contemporary warfare on US soil, the [removed] missile.

    • They are doing the boycott because the bill passed doesn’t promote equality it treats one group of people as though they are inferior to another. Equality is what was before the bill past.

      Why do I bother, you are not going to get it anyway?

      • No, I get it. That’s why people have the right to reject it but don’t have the right to stop anyone else from traveling where they want. Sorry that not every place is set up to accommodate gays, transgenders, bisexuals or queers and sorry that they’re not as interesting as lesbians. There is nothing more annoying than anyone imposing who they are upon others especially to their children. My community college experience would have been less cringe-worthy without prescription drugs and “please accept who I am or else” vibes floating around half of the campus.

    • It’s money for their economy that they lose out on, I guess they don’t want anything scheduled there. I personally dont care, I had no plans of going there soon.

  10. A judge has issued the first outright acquittal of a defendant charged in the Capitol riot.

    Following a two-day bench trial in U.S. District Court in Washington, New Mexico engineer Matthew Martin was acquitted Wednesday on four misdemeanor charges by U.S. District Court Judge Trevor McFadden. Martin claimed that he thought the police had allowed him into an entrance near the Capitol Rotunda on Jan. 6, 2021. This sets a precedent for more acquittals to follow.

    • Amazing how Fox News did a ten minute analysis of this case, and then it was the focus of rants by both Hannity and Tucker the shmucker, but the steady stream of guilty pleas and convictions has not been “newsworthy” in the Fox universe.

      By the way, since Fox didn’t cover it you should check out the latest on the Proud Boys.

      Well, you’re probably not interested.

      DoJ has moved on from making plea deals with Proud Boys members on seditious conspiracy charges to get their testimony against Proud Boys leaders and organizers, and now the leaders are pleading out and testifying against…

      Well, who knows outside the DoJ.

      But if I was among the people who contracted the Proud Boys and funded their attack on the capitol I’d be headed to a non-extradition country.

  11. the new documents — which include a signed copy of a $1 million legal retainer, emails related to the wire transfers, and $3.8 million in consulting fees that are confirmed in new bank records and agreements signed by Hunter Biden — illustrate the ways in which his family profited from relationships built over Joe Biden’s decades in public service.

  12. What ever happened to school teaching Reading, Spelling and Math?
    Isn’t it the parents job to teach the rest?
    Each family is different based on religion and other family traditions
    what family has given those rights away?
    I did NOT!

    • Reading, spelling and math are considered “RACIST” by the woke mob and socialist teachers’ unions. Certain demographic groups can’t keep up so they dumb down the entire curriculum and hold back the bright ones. They want equity of outcomes, rather than equality of opportunities. They are building and brainwashing their activist army of the future.

      Also, educated, well-informed voters are anathema to Democratic politicians that cater to their ignorant base to retain power.

      The rest of the world that used to envy us now laughs at our self-destructive stupidity. You stupid b#$tards that voted them in have pissed away the greatest country there EVER WAS.

      • Cindy, this stream of nonsense from America’s Most Ridiculous Fox News Repeater is what you invited with your comment there. If you have any problem recognizing the lack of truth in any line of his spew feel free to ask. I’ve debunked most of it so many times I can’t be bothered going through it line by line.

        As to your question, no one has “given away” any rights. That really doesn’t relate to the issue at hand, although the elected representatives in Texas and Florida would have you believe it does.

        What their new lawmaking is about is making life difficult for people that they have been trying to keep marginalized. After “no, LGBTQ people can’t raise children” got put down as unconstitutional they went looking for new ways to make other people’s lives unpleasant. This is their latest gambit.

        See, YOU may very well be teaching your children right and wrong, and other people may be trying to do so, but in reality parents do a whole lot of showing…way more than they do teaching. As an example, I can’t remember my father teaching me much, but he did show me that there is an “appropriate” slur word available to use for just about everyone. Some are based on skin color, others on various aspects of religion…national origin sexual preference, gender (“the weaker sex” was a favorite of his that I’m sure you’ll appreciate in particular); anyway, he sprinkled these into pretty much every conversation at home, so I saw that as normal.

        Obviously, when I got to school a little explanation was in order or other people’s kids were going to get a rude introduction to my reality. That’s part of what schools have always provided; helping kids get along with each other during their first forays outside the family and understand the differences they encounter. But Texas is governed by people who want their kids to be able to bully some kid that has two moms, and they don’t want teachers to be able to stop that bullying because they are still stinging from losing the battle to keep kids from having two moms. They want their kids to be able to bully black kids because they are still stinging from losing the civil war. It’s their way of using their kids to “get even.”

          • I wonder who reads all the way down those posts, lol

            I mean I honestly make it 2-4 paragraphs in and The BS meter is pinging off the charts.

            Standard protocol for Timmmmay!

          • Someone a few weeks ago called Tim a intellectual liberal. A light came on in my head then I barfed. I’ve only read his first paragraph ever since.

            I prefer to fornicate myself than read a second, third, or forth paragraph.

    • As a significant other of a Transitional Kindergarten teacher I an assure you parents are failing to teach basic social behavior which is drastically affecting the teachers ability to teach anything in the classroom. The kids with basic manners tell the teacher they want to go home because of the disruption caused by the kids who’s parents failed to teach them a thing at home.

      • Teachers really do not teach anything, they guide students who want to learn. If a kid does not want to learn, there is nothing they can do. That was my experience. I hated public school teachers then and still do. My wife and I home schooled our kids, they passed the SAT on their first attempt. I never passed any class, I was put forward as they tried their best to get rid of me.
        I corrected all my so called teachers, they hated that. I did excel in private schools and schools for the gifted and today I have three degrees. But spelling and English remain my worst subjects.
        It is strange, as I have written 27 books. Thank you for my patient editor.

      • @GordoBlanco…you mean kids that are just like the adults in america who don’t know proper social behavior who the police cannot stop because of liberal government policies like bail reform, AB 109, Prop 47, Prop 57, and the list goes on? I mean, you’re doing it to yourself by voting “left” every election cycle. Of course that’s an assumption on my part. But statistically speaking, most teacher are liberal and vote democrat, so my statement has a 95% probability of being accurate.

  13. I am sure that the CA politicians will be truly missed in Florida and Texas.

  14. Politicians don’t know child psychology…early age development is so important. Parents should be the ones with this discussion. I agree with FL and TX. In 20 years we will have confused adults…oh wait…that’s what we have now….they don’t know WHO they are and can’t find their own bathroom . Yes America, you are broken.

  15. In Florida, DeSantis has defended that state’s legislation, saying it “showed a commitment to education, not to indoctrination.”

    “As the parent of three kids that are aged 5 and under, thank you for letting me and my wife be able to send our kids to kindergarten without them being sexualized,” DeSantis said.

    Sounds good to me!
    Although I want the dims to keep fighting for their quest to sexualize our children…
    All the way to November

    • LOL…”sounds good to me!!!”

      As we’ve already seen you do enjoy being lied to. There is no “quest to sexualize our children” happening outside the propaganda fed nightmares of right wing nut jobs. DeSantis, like Republican officials everywhere, has accomplished absolutely nothing positive on any actual issue. So they create these windmills to tilt at and their propaganda arm congratulates them for their stand against things that aren’t happening.

      Tell us Beecee, were you just as excited when Republicans took their mighty stand against “democrats running child slavery out of a pizza restaurant”? Were you just as excited when Republicans took their mighty stand against “fire starting space lasers”? The list of imaginary dragons the GOP has defeated is endless, but what have they done in REALITY?

      You live in the AV so you aren’t a billionaire…that means the “Trump tax cut” has expired for you and is shifting into a tax hike. After years of “legislating” that amounted to weekly bills proposing “we hate Obamacare” (not sure how any of those is even a proposal since none of them even took the form of a change to statutes, they were just house driven hate screeds really) and promising they had something better up their sleeves they got the majority and all they came up with was “we repeal Obamacare and then we’ll figure out something I guess,” which would have just dismantled the existing health care system and left nothing in its place. The list of what they have NOT accomplished in reality is even longer than the list of their imaginary dragons.

        • Are you honestly claiming that you are unaware that accusations of “democrat pedophile human trafficking” have come from a wide range of GOP sources, and when pressed for details they produced a Georgetown pizzeria basement as the location, leading to the innocent pizzeria staff and customers being held hostage at gunpoint by a RWNJ out to prove Hannity and Tucker correct? Note: nothing was found in the pizzeria but pizza appropriate material, certainly no trafficked child sex slaves. With all your “deep in the know” sources it’s hard to imagine that you would have missed that one.

          Oh.

          Wait.

          Yeah, your sources would never report anything against their GOP propaganda masters.

          • I’m not sure and I’m too lazy to research it, but wasn’t that RWNJ at the pizza shop related to Gen. Flynn somehow?

          • Nah, Flynn’s kid wasn’t the pizzagate shooter, but he was heavily involved in the QAnon conspiracy nonsense.

          • Funny seeing you say “QAnon nonsense,” since you are Americas Most Likely to Post QAnon Nonsense.

            Well, in the running anyway. There’s Beecee.

            And FWB.

            And the rando-name bot posters…

            Still funny.

          • Now all conservatives are QAnon wackos? Now I know, that you really know that’s not correct, although I am a wacko in all other ways, and often get mistaken for the QAnon shaman guy.

            Reasonable people can disagree civilly, and if not, we’re in trouble.

          • I didn’t say anything about “all conservatives,” I said that YOU routinely post nonsense that is from the QAnon source book. I know you don’t get it direct from QAnon, you get it from Fox, but that’s where it originates.

        • Funny seeing you say “QAnon nonsense,” since you are Americas Most Likely to Post QAnon Nonsense.

          ^Great stuff lol ^

          I felt sorry for Biden watching him walk around lost while Obama stole the show. How in the hec did Biden get more votes than anyone in history? Obama still comes across presidential. Biden comes across as a lost old man.

          I have to question anyone who says he’s not well into mental decline.

          • Not sure if you heard, but Fox edited the clip to make him appear lost. In the end he found the person he was looking for and brought him to Obama. Now back to enjoying your entertainment show on Faux News and taking it as news.

          • No, FWB has no idea he is being fed edited BS to support his fantasies, and telling him so is pointless because he is smart as a hamster.

          • Oh yeah it’s only the right that edits stuff to sway opinions.

            Journalism is dead across all mediums

          • “Salamander” ? LMAO. Beecee, you have star potential. Ya gotta be good to hang with Tim and William!