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Detectives seeking information in Lancaster shooting

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LANCASTER — Local detectives are seeking information regarding an attempted  robbery and shooting that occurred in Lancaster last week.

It happened around 1:30 p.m. Wednesday, Dec. 30, according to Deputy Kit Gruppie of the Lancaster Sheriff’s Station.

“A fight and attempt robbery occurred in the Dollar Tree parking lot, located in the 1000 block of East Avenue J,” Gruppie stated in a news release. “During the attempt robbery, the suspect fired a semi-automatic handgun at three male Hispanic victims, ages 16 to 20 years old.”

All parties fled the location before deputies arrived, according to Gruppie.

“Detectives from Operation Safe Streets Bureau are looking for the public’s help in locating the suspect and victims of the robbery or anyone involved in the incident,” Gruppie stated.

Anyone with information regarding this incident is encouraged to contact Detective Welle of the Operation Safe Streets Bureau at 661-948-8466.

To remain anonymous, call L.A. Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

[Information via news release from the Lancaster Sheriff’s Station.]

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35 comments for "Detectives seeking information in Lancaster shooting"

  1. The subject was taken into custody Friday 01/29/16. Thank you to the witnesses who’s observations led to the subject’s capture.

  2. My husband was present at the time
    He explained the whole story to be after I became frighten cause he could have been injured or killed !!!

    • I would love to hear from your husband. Detective Daniel Welle 661-948-8466, leave a voicemail and it will go to my cell phone.

  3. That whole shopping center is pretty grimey in broad daylight. Lots of weird activity there. People just hang out in the parking lots like it’s the thing to do.

        • We should have no fear. We are protected by the sentinel in the sky, LEAPS. It’s a $90K a month investment that gives a that sense of safety and security. Anything you may see that looks shady is merely an illusion. The bad guys know we have LEAPS and it makes them stop doing bad things right in their tracks. All the stories you hear or read about people being robbed or shot are just made up. LEAPS is the answer.

          • If LEAPS is the answer, then the question is “How can a mayor deliver a ten million dollar payoff without spending his own money?”

        • What????????? The recycling center is about the only good thing that has happened during the reign of King Rex. They need to get rid of LEAPS………and King Rex!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Yes we have too many liquor stores, smoke shops, and thrift stores, but without them and all the tattoo parlors on the BLVD what would we have for businesses? Hardly anything comes to Lancaster anymore. Since Rex has been a while, it’s gotten pretty bad. He even has managed to screw up the BLVD.

          • The leading sconomic driver in Lancaster is Rex…driving the economy into the toilet and the cash into his crony’s pockets

  4. Why don’t they just ask LEAPS?Why don’t they just ask LEAPS?It is a crime fighting sentinel.It is a crime fighting sentinel.For $90,000.00 a month.For $90,000.00 a month.For ten years.For ten years.That is $10,800,000.00.That is $10,800,000.00.For Rex’s political supporter.For Rex’s political supporter.His profits goes up as crime goes up.His profits goes up as crime goes up.Time to end LEAPS.Time to end LEAPS.Cut this wasteful spending of tax payer money.Cut this wasteful spending of tax payer money.The hard working people of Lancaster deserve better.The hard working people of Lancaster deserve better.No to LEAPS.No to LEAPS.Yes to Sherriffs.Yes to Sherriffs.More boots on the ground.More boots on the ground.

    • LEAPS should be put on the ballot so we can vote on whether we want to spend $10 million dollars on a failed idea or have that money put to good use for more law enforcement and help fight crime. Crime is hurting our businesses. LEAPS may have sounded good at the start but it has proven to be worthless.

      • Rex would never allow it to come to a vote. It would be overwhelmingly rejected. If he got rid of LEAPS it would be the smartest thing he has done as mayor and it would help our city. He will never get rid of it because he is more concerned about taking care of his pals than us.

  5. All parties fled…

    Sounds more like a beef than an attempted robbery, but of course settling a beef doesn’t have that air of “could happen to you” that keeps the public panicky and supportive of law enforcement.

    • You are an idiot. I pity the fact you have nothing better to do with your life than be a troll on The AV Times web site. Your comment is pure conjecture with no basis in fact for the purpose of promoting your anti-law enforcement agenda.

    • Well, you know, you could always put on the uniform and badge if your so inclined…but we know where this is going, don’t we? You’d probably wet your pants on your first call.

      I suggest you stick to making asinine commentary on every article on this site. It seems to be what you do best.

      • Pretty amusing how you make these wild assumptions about someone you’ve never met Marcos. Then after proving that you are willing to spout nonsense on subjects you know nothing about you will no doubt wonder why you aren’t taken seriously.

        So, other than “I, Marcos, disagree with this personally” do you have anything to put up that conflicts with my original statement? Let me repeat the main points.

        Point one: An attempted robbery has victims. Victims seem to be lacking here, since after the fight everybody ran off. On the other hand, when some thug feels like they have “a score to settle” over some shady dealings with some other thug, after that fight there’s a good chance that all parties would rather run off than talk about the shady dealings at the root of it all.

        Point two: It is in the best interests of cops, politicians who run on the ‘law and order endorsement’ ticket, security companies, and an assortment of related businesses, to keep the public in as much of a fret as possible. If crime were seen as “so unlikely to happen to me that I don’t give it a thought” who would support the multi-billion dollar home security industry? Who would vote for an idiot just because he promises to “clean up the streets”? Who would say “oh, yeah, they kill some unarmed guy now and again, but we desperately need our heroes in blue so they get a pass”?

      • Do you think that a surveillance video of a fight starting in a parking lot is going to tell you what the fight was about? Surveillance video isn’t a movie with dialog.

          • Yeah…people stand around when a fight is breaking out and take notes. I didn’t “cherry pick,” I dealt with your more effective comment. Witness accounts are pretty much worthless and everyone (but you, apparently) knows it. Surveillance video at least made a little sense.

    • Mr. Scott, I care for my victims and the citizens I am sworn to safeguard, not politics. I am looking for the victims (I feel safe calling them this because of statements made by the witnesses in the case), I want to make sure they are alive and well first and foremost. I have reason to be worried in this instance. Yes, victims flee and victims are often afraid (one may call being shot at good cause for that kind of fear) to come forward when victimized. Lastly, this was in broad day light in a shopping center, many people were present, I am looking for all of the witnesses I can find. If you have questions, feel free to ask for me at Lancaster Station. I will discuss, what I can, with you.

      • Thanks Detective. My views are more about the general world we live in than an interest in this specific case.

        There are a lot of people, yourself included, who benefit from the perception that “crime is running rampant.” You may not be actively trying to contribute to that perception, and you may not even think about how you benefit from it. You may even wish that you didn’t benefit from it and/or that it wasn’t even a perception that people have. But it is there, people in your profession do benefit, and there are people (in your profession and others) who not only know they benefit from it but actively feed it.

        Thanks for offering your time though.

        • How do law enforcement officers benefit from crime. Do you think cops like crime to happen so they have jobs. If so you are wrong. Most cops would prefer that there be no crime. Yes it keeps them in a job, but at what cost. Cops work hard at keeping people safe, and put their lives on the line every day, so that others may go about their business everyday without having to fear that they will be robbed, beaten, or victimized in any way. Sometimes they pay the ultimate sacrifice. I personally know Detective Dan Welle, and he is one of the hardest working detectives I know. He has more integrity than you ever will. When he said in his statement that he cares for his victims and the citizens he has sworn to protect, that is said from his heart, not just something he says. If I were ever a victim, Dan is a detective I would want on my case. He leaves no stone unturned. I know this for a fact, as I used to work with him. Yes, I am a retired detective, and I know you will have some [removed] comment to make about this reply, but it makes no difference.

          • Cops don’t benefit from crime. They benefit from the false perception “crime is rampant.” I’m not trying to be nasty, just pointing out a reality.

            When a citizen looks at their law enforcement what they see is partially determined by how “bad” they think the crime situation is. A citizen who thinks “crime is rampant” will be more forgiving of the occasional “bad apple” or even widespread misconduct. A citizen who thinks “crime is rampant” will support prioritizing budgets to be more supportive of law enforcement.

            Another false perception that has similar results is something you said in your comment. The classic “lives on the line.” The on the job fatality rates just do not support that claim. There are a vast array of jobs that have higher rates, and probably forty percent of the workers in this valley are statistically at greater risk of not coming home from work alive than a cop is. Yet people who believe it are again going to be more forgiving and supportive towards law enforcement, so it benefits cops for this falsehood to be accepted.

            EXCEPT when they accept it themselves. The paranoia of “I could be killed any day now” feeds into the chronic enmity between cop and community. I’m hated by a fair number of cops, and I don’t mind, or blame them, because I am an extremely outspoken critic. But the average citizen shouldn’t be treated like a one in a million serial cop killer just because cops have bought into their own propaganda. It’s counterproductive.