LANCASTER – Lancaster Mayor R. Rex Parris reacted strongly to the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisor’s recent approval of a policy that allows homeless probationers and parolees to qualify for government-subsidized housing and cuts the criminal history review period for drug-related and violent crimes from three to two years.
The policy changes are part of the Housing Authority’s annual plan and are aimed at getting more homeless people off the street. The changes also mean some probationers and parolees will qualify to receive housing vouchers specifically set aside for homeless people, which, in some cases, may move them ahead of seniors and disabled persons for government-subsidized Section 8 housing.
Monday morning, Parris released the following statement:
“I am absolutely appalled and disgusted that the Board of Supervisors would allow felons to cut the line for Section 8 housing benefits. People who have played by the rules, lead a clean life and have waited years to qualify for Section 8 housing now have to wait until criminals who are just out of prison take these valuable government-subsidized vouchers.
Section 8 housing is a privilege and allowing someone who has committed a violent crime as recently as two years ago the ability to skip over the elderly and the disabled disgusts me. If there was ever a time for hard-working people to challenge how Section 8 is administered, now is the time. This decision violates the spirit of Section 8 and sends the wrong message to those who play by the rules.
What is also amazing about the County’s action is that it seems to fly in the face of their other recent Board actions where the Supervisors were critical of the state in dealing with parolee housing issues. Clearly no one should be surprised prison realignment is off to a shaky start, as the state government did a disservice to local communities by not giving careful thought to the public safety implications of the law.
Now the County is doing the same to Lancaster by sending thousands of criminals to the City of Lancaster. The County has the unique ability to speak out of both sides of its mouth.
In Lancaster we are asking, is the Board of Supervisors now using Section 8 to dump the county’s criminals into the City of Lancaster? There should be no mistake about the consequences of sending violent felons into our city. Some of our hard working families are going to be hurt and/or murdered as a result of this decision. Just last week we had a respected store owner murdered by a recently released parolee. How can anyone say we are not in a war over how Section 8 is being administered in Los Angeles County?”
160 comments for "Mayor blasts County for allowing probationers & parolees to “cut the line for Section 8 housing”"
ryenisha jackson says
THIS GUY IS A BIG JOKE, HE IS BLASTING ABOUT LETTING CRIMINAL’S GETTING SECTION 8 WHEN HIS CITY IS OVER TAKEN BY THEN INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT MORE CRIMINAL’S GETTING SECTION WHY DONT YOU FIX THE CRIME YOU ALREADY GOT GOING ON NOW WITH THE SCUM THUGS .
abdul majeed askia says
That is a good idea because i happen to believe when it comes to social ills the first person we need to correct is ourselves. The longer we put the blame and control outside of ourselves the longer it will take ro rise above negativity. I believe self awareness a sense of purpose and knowledge of human development plays a major part of collectively and individually speaking. I do not have a hate message because ultimately we are all going to have to work it out together. The james holmes matter or mental state exist in far more characters than we care to believe. Trust me i dont speculate.abdul askia @ yahoo.com
Michelle Egberts says
I personally want to thank Peter Lynn, Director, Shaun Donovan, Secretary City of Los Angeles Section 8 HUD Program and Administration for recognizing the needs of the ex-offender population coming home and believing in giving second chances. Your Administration is helping us gain access to one of the fundamental building blocks of a stable life… a place to live.
It is my sincerest attempt to educate and inform the public that most ex-offenders, including myself want nothing more than to come home and become a productive part of our community. Sometimes, it can be difficult when so many people are unwilling to offer a second chance to individuals who are working so hard on change, especially in Lancaster.
Returning prisoners must overcome many barriers to access housing in the private rental market. These barriers include affordability, improper personal documentation, stigma of criminal history, and associated community objection due to public safety issues. Affordability is the most significant barrier. Prisoners upon release from our prisons leave with a token amount of $200 “gate money”, hardly enough for a deposit in most cases.
An eloquent statement by then President George W. Bush on signing the Second Chance Act, April 9, 2008. “The country was built on the belief that each human being has limitless potential and worth. Everybody matters. We believe that even those who have struggled with a dark past can find brighter days ahead. One way we act on that belief is by helping former prisoners who’ve paid for their crimes… we help them build new lives as productive members of society… the work of redemption reflects our values.”
Encouraging community understanding and support for our returning prisoner population should be a PRIORITY. The “not in my backyard” (NIMBY) opposition could be offset by transmitting information to the public and by showing the community that ex-offenders are making contributions to society by having that SECOND CHANCE.
Ensuring that people released from prison and jail find appropriate places to live is critical to public safety, healthy families and our community. We paid our debt to society for our mistakes, it shouldn’t be a life sentence of further punishment and persecution. We have the right to come home and once again become law-abiding, tax paying citizens and help reduce our 70% recidivism rate and public safety.
North County says
To quote you: “Returning prisoners must overcome many barriers to access housing in the private rental market. These barriers include affordability…”
. . . Yeah . . . – And what makes you think these ‘barriers’ are unique only to someone in your shoes?? I’m employed, no criminal record, and these are barriers for ME as well … IN FACT, I would wager that they are barriers to any blue collar working class person trying to find affordable housing. It’s called LIFE – I wish you nothing but luck in your quest to overcome and (hopefully not repeat)your past – BUT you’re not “special” (in the sense that you deserve ‘special’ treatment) because of your past, nor do you deserve any special entitlement, so get to the back of the line where you belong and let those who haven’t committed a crime get first choice when it comes to government handouts.
And your absolutely right that some people are unwilling to give a second chance to a criminal. Why should I give the benefit of the doubt to a sex offender or someone convicted (by his/her own admission) of a violent crime? Someone else already beat me to it when they gave them the benefit of the doubt the FIRST time; That’s why one party is now what we call a “victim” and/or “statistic” – The other is what we call the “criminal” and/or “offender” – Don’t like being labeled? Life a little rought now? Get over it or build a time machine and go back and fix it. Wait, can’t do that, so BLAME everyone around you for being in the situatuon you’re in. Blame all of us (especially in Lancaster) for not having enough happy sunshine and tolerance in our hearts to forgive (at times) when it comes to the crime committed; Sorry – There are things men (and women) do that are neither forgivable or worthy of a second chance. I hope you’re not one of them. Learn and grow from your past. But don’t expect me to smile and welcome you “home” with an assorted gift package that exceeds your $200 gate money – Sorry, you committed a crime, got caught and went off to jail and/or prison. You didn’t enlist in the service and go off to serve our country in a war. Take care.
…And Abdul, feel free to comment with another 100,000 page post that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic on hand… ***SMH**** I am done here. Next topic PLEASE!
Abdul Majeed Askia says
Doens’t your bible say forgive ? It illlogically to not have
a concept of forgiveness or reform. People wll always fail and make bad chocies.Imagine millions of blacks were enslaved,
and a whole host of evils. Should we forgive ? Should we
let go of the past ? Should president Barack Obama forgive
for all the ugly things that is said about him and the first
lady ? I am only illustrating to you for the goose is good
for the gander! I only want to point out the fact that at some
point we all have to let go of the past to have a better life.
Abdul Majeed Askia says
I happen to agree with you. Thats why my life
is like the character in he lord of the rings
“froto” the longer I stay on the road of public
service the more dangerous it becomes! I happen
to believe we have to be honest and open to
solve social problems. We have to putit all on
the table so we can get over it!From my angle
it is discussting for these kings and their imps
to be professing to be the guiding lights while
they oppress and surpress and intire class of
people (women)and deny basic civil rights to
protest. They are poised to kill any and all
dissidents.And they have some elements here under
I forgive them for slavery,rape,and murder…
North County says
Abdul; Stop contradicting yourself. You preach about forgiveness and letting go of the past, yet you repeatedly reference the enslavement of the black race. Funny how you don’t mention the millions of Jewish people that suffered similar horrific evils, nor do you mention the raging paranoia of the US Government during WWII that lead to the imprisonment of thousands of Japanese Americans. What about the chemical genocide in Iraq and the rest of the middle east? I just gave you 3 examples out of thousands to illustrate my point. These were all terrible crimes against humanity. I don’t need to consult a bible to seek out step by step instructions on the art of forgiveness; That comes from the heart, not any printed text. I can’t change the past and make all of the wrongs right – And neither can you. But if you insist on preaching about it, practice what you preach my friend. Stop using history as a scapegoat to one’s actions. That’s a crutch and a character disability. Forgiveness is on a case by case basis. The only thing we can do as a society is not forget nor repeat the past, and this applies to all. This is 2012; We shouldn’t be using horrible acts of the past to justify ones actions today. You can’t move forward if your wagon is stuck in the muck of the past. So let go and move forward my friend.
Bottom line, if these people are not able to, find housing and jobs they will be a threat to public safety. These offenders need to understand that if they can’t find employment, maybe they should consider being owners and employ their selves.
yeah…they need to go employ “their selves.” You don’t seem to understand that most of the crooks in this valley have already been given tons of free stuff. But its never enough.
Michelle, you are a piece of work. Why don’t you tell the world about one of your crimes. For example,the one where you bilked an elderly man out of thousands of dollars by promising him a job as the head of security for a country star. You are right up there just below child molesters. Then recently, weren’t you caught living with a guy and having access to guns, against the law since you are a FELON. But you skated this time because a moronic jury in this valley couldn’t read the penal code. How many more chances should we give you Michelle?
Michelle Egberts says
You are a classic example of the blatant corruption in Lancaster and lack of respect for the absolute right of the everyday citizen. How dare you insult my jurors, their belief, their opinions, their integrity and their verdict (12 – 0). Besides the penal code you so rely on Einstein, you forgot about that all crimes feature certain elements to convict. They obviously saw beyond the “smoke and mirrors.”
Do you think your insults endears the law abiding citizens of the Antelope Valley doing their civic duty? The only time they matter is at election time … Amazing!!!
Why don’t you stop hiding behind a screen name and reveal your true name and occupation, but then again I sincerely doubt you would… At least I have the courage, fortitude and tenacity to use my own. Would you like to comment on my next upcoming trial ? Maybe you’d like a reserved seat so you can insult the judge as well as the jurors.
I firmly believe in the integrity of our courts and in the jury system and thank all of you who have been and will have a voice in our adjudication and due process.
North County says
I wonder if the jury’s thought process will ‘altered’ under a cloud of smoke and mirrors when it comes time to weigh the evidence against the freshly paroled piece of trash who gunned down an innocent computer store owner? Or was his murderer just another misunderstood chap who would have done the right thing if only us narrow minded law abiding citizens would have provided him with a welcome home bag?
I hope their minds are not altered by smoke and mirrors when it comes time to sentence that drunk Jodi
@ North County, you have to realize the only response you get from “…” is the 5 year old response: Anytime someone criticizes a black thug, she scours the news to find a white suspect (Jodi Biers) then says “they did it too…they did it first….they did it more.” @…, the difference between us and you is:we want all the bad guys prosecuted, you want only whitey prosecuted.
Sounds like you can dish it, but not take it!! A criminal is a criminal. I have never said don’t prosecute any criminal.
The person that shot Mr Reed, should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
I had done business with Mr Reed, since the store was first opened. Those are your words only, sir.
Is THIS you Michelle Egberts??? If so, please explain!
WARRANT ISSUED FOR CON WOMAN SENTENCING MISSED, NO RESTITUTION MADE February 2, 2005 Daily News
Byline: Karen Maeshiro Staff Writer
LANCASTER – A judge issued a no-bail arrest warrant for a Lancaster woman who scammed people out of $34,000 with stories of being a surgeon and the tour manager for country singer Reba McEntire.
Michelle Egberts-Greene, 39, failed to show up Tuesday for her sentencing nine months after she was released to try and get a job and begin making restitution payments to victims.
No payments have been made and Egberts-Greene has been arrested twice, once when she was accused of throwing a laptop computer at a security guard at a hotel where she worked and once on a charge she kicked a firefighter in the face.
North County says
We all know by now that someone who kills another person as a result of drunk driving will wind up (regardless of what they’re initially charged with) getting slapped with manslaughter … Sad but true … A shooter will get life in prison for pulling the trigger; A drunk driver will wind up doing 7-15 years tops …
Criminal,is a criminal,is a criminal and may the punishment fit the crime.
JD, I see Michelle hasn’t answered your comment, but yeah…its the same person. She wants to be forgiven for her numerous crimes, and now wants her free housing on top of it all! Like I said,crimes against old folks is right up there almost with child molsters Michelle. I did love how you’re so proud you got off one case, and eagerly wating for your OTHER trial! Good god how many felonies are we supposed to forgive? Go back to the pokie where you belong. You are a perfect example of the garbage that is ruining this valley!
I dunno, Ronnie. Has that judge you deserted to her fate forgiven YOU?
otis criblecoblis says
otis criblecoblis says
How about all those aliases YOU hide behind, Michelle…Mikki?
Abdul Majeed Askia says
Decades ago I got caught up as youngster in the system. After serving the
time alotted to me upon parole I was placed on the USC speaking circuit.
From there I went on to speak in LA college,orange college,army bases,
high schools,seminars,religious center,emabacies and a host of international conferences. This experience lead me me to become apart of various community based organizations/self help groups that addressed gang
violence,prison recidivism,racial conflict,drug addiction and social ills
ingeneral. I taught in challenger memorial youth facility for many
years under United Community Action Net work headed by the founder
Billy Pricer.This wide range of experience lead to teaching the prison
pre release program headed by Ron Deady. This passion to share my life
experience lead to an invatation to the White House spear heaeded by the
American muslim council.Ultimately I received awards for outstanding
community service,dedication and honor and profiled among people who
make a difference.
Why am I sharing this list of activity under this section? Because even
though my offence was decades ago and even though for several decades
I had dedicated my life to service there were those who could careless
and would forever hold me accountable as if it was yesterday I was
arrested. They didn’t care that it was a life time ago ! The attitude
is if you have ever been arrested before regardless of your new life
style we will deny you housing,employment and/or even the right to live
in our town!!!Naturally I was stunned.
Therefore,I went before city hall to explain how I had toured the white
house,addressed members of congress,invited to talk shows,received all
these awards for civic service how or why Im I being denied access to
basic services? I said to myself I can imagine the hell the other fellows
are receving who hasn’t accomplished no where near the achievements
and social reception I have received! Yes,I have had people say ugly
things about me but I have always faced any and all negativity. I
have been blessed to maintain consistency for over twentyfour years and
yet there are those who feel they have the right to deny me low income
or section 8 (even though I haven’t applied for either one)!
The attitude is since you have been to prison you have to stay in prison
or be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment forever!!!I served the
time. I turned from my wayward ways as Paul said when I was child,I spoke
as a child and I did childish things but now that I am a man I put away
childish things ! I gave up negativity! I have been malinged,lied on
slandered and on occasions treated bad but I faced the music,never running,
never hiding and by the grace of God I have stood the test of time.
However,to be denied basic housing and an opportunity to adjust to society
based on an attitude of “never will you be allowed to adjust”is beyond
reason.Again,thats why I constantly say there is a method to the madness!!
I taught thousands in youth facilities and prisons and they were very very
receptive. In fact it shocked many guards,they were wondering why and
how on earth were so many people listening to Abdul Majeed Askia!?
I understand their dilema. I know what the problems are and I know how
to address them. But what did they do ? Stop Abdul Majeed Askia from
explaining to them the pit falls of society. Stop him for enlightening
them on what it will take to succeed against all odds! It takes tenacity,
faith,endurance,courage.sacrifice,determination and so to overcome
the obstacles in your path. I knew how to communicate with them in way
that they could hear me> However,various forces cut that off which tells
me somebody wants recidivism!!!!Every known road block was thrown
in my path. Remember I was teaching adults,remember I was invited to
the Kings table Saudia Arabia/WHITE hOUSE/THOSE WERE THE GOLDEN YEARS.
Now there are elements who have aligned themselves to prevent the effort
to return recidivism around. On this blog various elements clearly stated
the efforts to stop me from having seminars or reaching the public. You should ask yourself why? Remember, I was swimming with the sharks!
Abdul Majeed Askia says
Ace.You are proving my point!Just look in the mirror and you will
see one of the people that is determined to undermine positive
efforts. Why are you focusing on the past or negativity when
the leaders of this country and extended invitations to every
level of this society ?Why are you trying to bring to surface
the past ? Is it to inform dorment elements ? Is it to stir up
commotion?Why would you are anyone want to agitate the families
who lost love one’s? Do you think this is noble of you? Ace,
I knew there would come a time that various forces would surface
to muddy the waters.You see as long as I was an unknown it was
no big challenge to bring me down,you wouldn’t get any brownnie
points for an unknown. But the wise warned me,they said
Abdul Majeed Askia once you start to make a difference and
people start to pay attention thats when the negative element will show up!!! Welcome to the club.The wise educated me to the reality that the negative and the positive would run parallel,
side by side. Therefore, I set my mind to take the negative
to prove my point,there are those that don’t want people to get
out of the loop! However,I want the world to know about the
life styles,the booby traps and pit falls that youngsters get
caught up in thats designed for them to never get out of.
I want to show the people that any given moment they can slip
and fall and end up being accused of all the crimes of humanity
I want to show the society how ruthless people can be in trying to keep you down and how really sick it is to trample over
people even when a person says ‘I give,I quit,ok’,yet no matter
what the pressure is to get you back in prison! Amazing!!!!
In fact it is rediculous to set young people up with three
strikes knowing that it is almost impossible for eighteen and
nineteen year olds not to make a mistake. Millions smoke
marijuana and yet the angency is poised to send youngster to
prison. The ex-cons are required to live and be like Jesus
while the general community consume alcohol and marijuana on
a daily bases. I don’t smoke or drink, I haven’t in decades
but it has more to do with self discovery than man made laws.
Again,we create impossible situations and yet require those
parolling from prison to succeed. However, I still offer a
degree of insight to encourage others against all odds to succeed.It can be done. Focus on the good Ace,otherwise go look
in the mirror and see one of those guys set out to obstruct
my path. One among email@example.com
Abdul Majeed Askia says
Ace. I have been pointing out there is a method to the madness!
Nothing is accidental or coincidental. By attacking my past and
haboring on something that happened decades ago you are demonstrating how you have done your home work,now you are
attempting to awaken negative elements to hurl against me. Yes,
you and others have already conspired on how you would stir
the pot to not only create controversy but destroy me by any
menas. The facts speak for itself. You only focus on the negative,you are very sarcastic,very demeaning and all with the
pretense that you jusy want to inform others of what I have done
which should prevent them from wanting to have anything to do with me. Again,nothing you do and/or any other negative force
would suprise me.
I am determined to share my experience,insight and life story
in a way that will motivate and inspire others to rise above
negativity. My intent is to encourage people to avoid life
styles and negative chocies that could lead to destructive
ends. Again,it takes self discipline,self control,self esteem
and a sense of self worth to be able to stand against self
destructive criticism!As the wise would say,for everyone that
hates or dislike you,there is always someone that likes you.
The yen and the yang,the good and the good.
I knew when I pointed out religious gang banging and how the
scripture was being used/twisted to deny people the right to
vote,protest and think critically that the wheels of the Saudia
dynasty would begin to influence religious circles in America.
Go do your home work and discover Abdul Majeed Askia in the
front page of the Los Angeless Times being singled out.Afterwards
numerous deliberate accidents and gradual exclusion from the speaking circuit. Isn’t that how it works Ace ? Yet,I push on
inspite of the odds and tremendous opposition! I trust that
the good will win through. As long as the task is noble the
good will win through.So,before you dig, ask your self what is
your motive?Why not encourage me to be abetter person as opposed
to ripping me apart? What is the ultimate aim of this diatribe?
There is amethod to the madness people.What appears to be
hyphazard is actually created madness!!! Right Ace.
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How bout Abdul & Ace go on a retreat and become buddies…wouldn’t that be great for all of us?
Abdul Majeed Askia says
There is a such thing as intelligent dialogue. Conversations about how best to raise the consciousness of the community.
How to make the community more harmonious and violence free.
Are maybe how best to address the racial tide that is plaguing
this nation as opposed to vain or frivilous conversation.
Most of the people on this blog appear to be rational,compassionate and considerate of others.There are only
few thats set on disorder but even that can be used to
shape our discussions. States of minds points out ‘states’
of social conditions. In otherwords nothing operates
in a vacuum.e=Mc square;energy matter and light is all one
and the same! Folks,we are all connected.
North County says
Interesting (yawn) reading … Lot’s of reading and I’m not sure just what in the hell it has to do with criminals being given priority access over the elderly and disabled to Government Assistance. Oh wait, the old thinking light bulb just clicked; WE as a society are to blame for the heinous crimes someone commits because WE failed the perpetrator. There wasn’t enough money pumped into outreach programs or some other form of tax draining “preventative maintenance” – I’m sorry that it is MY fault that little Jimmy didn’t know the difference between right and wrong and didn’t have a positive role model in his life or that he needed a mentor and spiritual guidance counselor to inform him that it is WRONG to rob, rape murder and steal from his fellow man. I guess the only way we as a society can make this right is by making reparations to the aggressors of society. Please, let me continue to get up at 5am and drive 80 miles to my job so I can continue to reimburse and reward the leaches and least deserving members of society with a vast array of social lottery systems. It makes me feel good to know that a good portion of my check goes into a system that ensures a criminal can go to sleep at night in a nice new comfortable house – Minus that pesky little mortgage payment every month. Meanwhile some poor senior citizen who never committed a single act of violence in their entire life waits in limbo on the voucher list. Sadly most of them will die before they get any help. Abdul, can you justify and explain to us how this is fair?
NC you are right on! Thank you for speaking the truth and reality of the Antelope Valley!
One big shake, a Tsunami and it’s all over with no more stereotyping, no crime, no more section 8 people or gangbangers. Sounds like heaven for the citizens of the AV. RIP….
I think McKeon just collects a paycheck and votes the party line. A cushy job. He just phones it in.
Anyone catch the Warford column in today’s AVP? So disgusted!
“So disgusted”???? I’m not clear. Are you disgusted with his article or was he writing an article where he was disgusted? He does do that “Things that are outrageous” article now and the.
Section 8 disgust and what is happening to the people who are truly in need of assistance..
Thanks. Same here. The program needs reforming.
John Mlynar says
Section 8 is a federal program. Cities have no control over is. That may be good or bad, but it is reality. Anyone who wants to let their opinions known should contact their congressperson, senators and president. The more people who call/write, the more chance that you will be heard.
15 minutes,til Zimmerman will be charged with Murder…
I Dumped On Myself must be related to Rex. Both bullies. Oh, and morons.
Don't dump on me L.A. says
That’s all you got to say? Why don’t you engage in a civil conversation? I forgot small minded people don’t engage in conversation.
Reading through this, it’s amazing the hostility and lack of any critical thinking. But then seeing the hypocrisy of a comment like yours “Don’t dump on me L.A.” makes me realize that for the most part this is just one or two people enjoying the ability to anonymously be contrary. A unpleasant form of mental masturbation that certain types of the population enjoy.
To bad it’s not kept to the privacy of your own home.
Unless you really have forgotten what you say from one post to another.
After all your previously insulting remarks to complete strangers, this complaint is disingenuous. To say the least.
Hey dumpy, listen to Teddy. He’s got a road map for you to find your lost way way back to your trailer so you can fry something up.
Don't dump on me L.A. says
Hey Toe Jam Craig why don’t you and your gay boyfriend Teddy crawl back into that cesspool of H8 that you both crawled out of?! You STILL ain’t got nothing intelligent to say. I guess all those years of smoking crack shrank your little mind among other things. I bet all you have is a 7th grade education and been busted for drugs. So go smoke some more on your crack pipe dude.
Perfect. Could not of done a better job proving my point. From the sad DDOMLA. A perfect example of the quality people in this valley.
Don't dump on me L.A. says
Wait! Let me get this straight Teddy….Toe Jam Craig can tell me to “go back to my trailer to fry something up” AND a moron. But when I defend myself I AM the sad one???? As you said eariler Teddy, you must be engaging in an unpleasant form of mental masturbation.
Yes sad. Because you have forgotten your original attacks. You are unpleasant, argumentative, bring no facts or logical thinking to the conversation.
Just accusations of homosexuality and drug abuse. Then, unbelievably, whine like a spoiled teenage girl that no one is engaging in civil conversation.
Predictably you again insult others. And when called on it pull out that teen girl, “I’m just defending myself.” “I just don’t know why they pick on me”.
The problem with this valley? There are to few adults. The kind of men that police themselves when it really matters. When they are alone or anonymous. When no one is looking.
So enough with the teenagers.
I would enjoy hearing more from the ex-military men that have commented over the last few days. This kind of thing doesn’t need to be explained to them.
Don't dump on me L.A. says
Teddy what was Toe Jam Craigs civil conversation about? Please enlighten me. I would happily engage in a civil conversation with him so please point out where he was engaging in civil conversation with me. NONE! Just attack, attack, insult, and attack the “Dump” (his words). Sorry if this “teenager” stands up for herself against bullies! Now move along Teddy to your next victim and go bully someone else! I’m done with you!
To begin with it does not have parrisites.
The powers that be do not live in this valley. Your Mayor will move to his OTHER house as soon as he squeezes this valley dry.
Parris will form an aliance with Palmdale? Parris will allow a non-partisan groupt to co-exist w/Palmdale? Parris will allow anything to exist which he has no control over? Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
well done says
Amazing how the AVPress has given “The Thinker” front page coverage with his cute fist under the chin photo on the day before and day of the election. And they wonder why people cancel subscriptions.
Don't dump on me L.A. says
Or how bout this one……MOVE outa here!! I will be happy to send you haters on your way outa here!! See ya!! We finally have a mayor that wants to do something about these low lifes, scumbags, stinky, fraudsters, moochers, do nothing, felons, parolees, haters, ghetto trash, white trash POS!!!
Are you relly that dumb, the Mayor is using section 8 to get votes, just like he used prayer before, it works for him, he has children in section 8 ashmed and afraid for being poor, these are real families that he is attacking, real children and we are suppost to be a Christian City, I guess no one is reading thier Bible or voting in Lancaster.
Don't dump on me L.A. says
From the looks of your spelling…..I’m not the dumb one. So instead of reading the bible maybe you should read a text book on spelling. Move along…..
they should be ashamed! Section8 and welfare wasnt meant to be something you lived on for life.
Maybe the owners of these section 8 properties could be counseled on the type of people Rex would have them fill their rentals with. If section 8 rentals were not offered, then the valley could be rid of section 8? The City could form another committee for property owners? Not done because I think the mayor is blowing smoke…you know where. If the owners can’t maintain these properties, there will be no revenue generated from the property taxes for the city,school etc…
Don’t owners still have to pay property taxes even if their property is vacant. Do you mean maintenance like lawn care, etc.?
I wonder if a home is foreclosed, does the bank still pay property taxes or is it just lien until the property is sold and left to the new owner to pay.
Alright. I read every single word and the answer is “NO!”.
I dont like many of these business’s either but Ace you are a hypocrite. You are enraged that the mayor forced the appliance shop to move (which I also disagree with… they shouldnt be forced to move..) but u r ok with the other places u mention being discriminated against… Heres a fact, get rid of the dirtbag section 8 abusers and the crappy business’s will close down… its that simple… no forty drinkin section 8 fraudsters no liqour stores or pawn shops… those of us who work buy our beer at the grocery store, get loans through our banking institution, play texas holdem with the fellas and dont give give the toothless sloots on sierra a second look except to say damn she is fugly…
You forgot one Ace… If he doesn’t like you he’ll fabricate charges against ya… What a mayor! Except one thing though, I don’t cower and run.
How does cynical Rex project to monitor them if they are homeless?
He doesn’t. It’s all about getting 4 more years to rule and feed his wittle flaggin ego which is all about what the world of Rex is all about. We’re paying for the bullies in school that took his lunch money.
You got that right! However, I will take great honor in impeaching him in court soon and bringing him out of office. He cowered when I challenged him and sent his cronies after me.
As much as it pains me to say, the cities of Palmdale and Lancaster need to form one large city and start annexing all the county areas. Then we should use whatever tactic Santa Clarita is using to keep section 8 out of their town…. unfortunately the AV is the last place for expansion in LA County and until we all unite to bring industry manufacturing and commerce to this town it will be more of the same. There are two classes of people out here workers and non workers…. The non workers need to go
No way. Merging the 2 cities would be like connecting a nice, clean lake with a toxic waste site. I live in Palmdale, if you can guess.
Plz Leave the AV says
@William You are sadly mislead to think that Pompton is a “clean lake” compared to Lancaster. This whole valley is filled with the parolees & probationers. Your town is just as filthy if not worse then the other. One other point I wanted to make is that the “tactic” that Santa Clarita has in place is the CITIZENS. Not the Mayor or LASO, the people of that small community get out and vote and they work. The people of Santa Clarita have pride in themselves as well as the place where they live. Lancaster & Palmdale will never merge because of narrow minded people like yourself, who fuel the “My town is better then yours” mentality. The L A County Board of Supv. know this and that my friend is the real deal. Embrace the funk where you live and enjoy your fake “Clean Lake” its nothing more then the lil one in Cal City. Have a nice day.
Parris is the one who declared the BLVD as the ‘heart of the Valley’. For a city of 150,000, the BLVD is pretty lame let alone the heart of a valley of half a million. Parris called Mayor Ledford a ‘dufus’. Parris was pretty quiet about the High Speed Rail project because he’s jealous that it isn’t stopping in his town. He is so petty.
Lancaster scr**** Quartz Hill by locating the Walmart right across from its high school. Lancaster gets the sales taxes and QH gets the traffic, crime and other problems. What a lousy neighbor Lancaster is. No wonder Palmdale doesn’t want to merge.
Mayor Ledford doesn’t get in fights in a gym or run council meetings like a despot.
Shall I go on?
@William…..how is Palmdale “clean” compared to Lancaster? some of the most runned down places in this valley are in east palmdale. worse than anything I ever saw when i lived in San fernando Valley. if you are talking about the city govt you are wrong there too! Jim Ledford is just as corrupt as Rex Parris and palmdale took money from the housing developers just like Lncaster did! Jim ledford just pretends to be all folksy and nice but he isnt. he is a politician with an agenda.
It was an analogy that had nothing to do with lakes. Sheesh. Palmdale is doing great despite several recessions since I moved here 20 years ago.
Palmdale has problems like any city.
Lancaster had ISSUES, like a dysfunctional family.
If Ledford has an agenda, I like it. Consider that Palmdale came from behind Lancaster in the last 2 decades and is now the premier city in the Antelope Valley. Our restaurants have cloth napkins and servers. If you want to order at the counter or get your own drinks go to the BLVD.
I’m so sick of all the bull from your mayor. You can have him and the thrift stores, Walmarts and auto wrecking yards. Why did Fresca II move to that nice facility at the Mall instead of the BLVD? Why did Trader Joe’s locate in Palmdale instead of Lancaster? Why is the proposed High Speed Rail stopping at the Palmdale Transportation Center instead of Lancaster? Why is Lancaster downwind from Palmdale? (sarcasm alert)
Why do some folks in Lancaster want to merge the 2 cities but not many in Palmdale? It would benefit Lancaster but not Palmdale whose bond rating wasn’t downgraded. I did’t have any problems with Lancaster till Parris became mayor. He’s bad for public relations. He’s your guy. Enjoy.
Matt S says
“whatever tactic Santa Clarita is using to keep section 8 out of their town”!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????
You’re kidding right? Merging cities has nothing to do with stopping Section 8. Over building and selling to investors has everything to do with Section 8.
Developers (Scott?) and the corrupt on the council and planning commission overbuild every decade. No water doesn’t stop them. Neither does sensible planning. Presto! Housing looking for a guaranteed monthly check. This isn’t rocket science.
Denise Latanzi says
You are absolutely spot on. The big problem is overbuilding, which the city just loves, because they make all that money from building permits.
The push for “rooftops, rooftops, rooftops”, to quote Henry Hearns, IS the problem. Whenever there are a huge number of avaliable houses, there is going to be an overabundance of rentals, ans landlords are businessmen, they want top dollar for their properties, and the place to get that is the Section 8 program.
Rental prices in the AV are absurd when you look at the actual value of the properties being rented. But the rentals are overpriced because the Section 8 program sets the standard, not the actual market.
When the economy is in building mode, the amount of money coming into Lancaster elections from developers is equally absurd. We’re all paying the price for it.
Matt S says
And part of our problems now are the banks adding to the rent hikes because they are, and have been sitting on available houses. Comparing the number of empty houses to houses being released by the banks, and city, for sale will show an artificial forcing of both renters, and rental prices. But keep blaming those bad bad section 8 folks. How dare they take their voucher to WHERE THEY’RE WANTED. By the rental owners.
Really, the folks in this valley are to easy to manipulate. People getting rich off section 8 getting the voting public to blame those whose only choice in the matter is to agree to rent. They are only taking what’s being offered. Is this to complicated for the AV to understand?
Don't dump on me L.A. says
Funny how Henry Hearns criticizes all the building! You can thank Henry Hearns for the Section 8 explosion on HIS watch in the 90’s! Such hypocrisy!
Exactly Eloise. Part of the problem is also that each city bends over backwards to developers because they know if they say no then the company builds in the other city. So nobody is willing to say no because they figure id rather have the tax base than my sister city. If we were on the same page both cities would have methodical expansion plans that are equitable and actually look out for the best interests of the valley residents
John Mlynar says
Creating one city is not going to make one iota of difference in Section 8. It could actually make the AV more attractive to Section 8 voucher recipients if this new “one city” overbuilds its housing stock. The difference between Santa Clarita and the AV is one of affordability. It costs less for housing in the AV. There’s no “tactic” involved. I agree that the AV is the only place for expansion in LA County and we do need to bring industry and business here. I think that will happen when the economy recovers. However, the state has tied the hands of the cities by dissolving redevelopment and trying to do away with the enterprise zones.
I pains me not at all to say I am not for a one city valley.
Not exactly true. Recently a political official in Santa Clarita made comments about continuing to send their Sec 8 to the Av…. I totally agree about overbuilding that is a huge part of the problem. But what about when one city steals business away from the other. At the very least we need line of communication between the two cities and a common expansion plan…When I say expansion I mean industry and commerce not more homes….
I don’t know why conservative republican Lancaster would complain if Palmdale stole businesses, it’s a republican thing with them. They love having red states steal business from California and other blue states, so why should it be different between cities?
John Mlynar says
Actually, “really,” what Mayor Laurie Ender said was this: (regarding residents of Jake’s Way): “As far as annexing (Jakes Way) in, I think that if we had a choice we would just cut it out and move it somewhere else like Palmdale,” Ender told the crowd. She did not specify Section 8, nor did she indicate that she had a method to “move” the area or the Section 8 particpants from the area.
If you do know of their “secret plan” or method, by all means, do tell!
I agree with you 100 percent about expanding commerce and industry.
Im not here to argue, but Santa Clarita has grown more than the Av percentage wise, so what is their secret for keeping that town free of section 8. I would venture to say it is because they have a growth plan that is well thought out. I know it also probably goes back to the aerospace bust of years ago.
And part of the success of Santa Clarita was the merging of cities. Is there a mayor of valencia, newhall etc… No I think much of it is all considered Santa Clarita now.
Santa Clarita doesn’t have as much of a problem with Section 8 because they had PLANNED growth and they did not just give KB Homes, K Hovnanian and DR Horton free reign on the land like Palmdale and Lancaster did. By regulating the growth in the Santa Clarita Valley, the city of Santa Clarita built let developers build only a certain number of homes which were then marketed specifically to upper middle class working professionals in the San Fernando Valley. Santa Clarita counts Old Town Newhall as “low income” and it meets their state requirement. Old Town Newhall is mainly first generation Latino immigrants. Outside of Old Town Newhall there is the small area of Jake’s Way in Canyon Country which has a couple of bad apartment complexes with Section 8 renters. But even Jakes Way is nothing compared to the Section 8 problems Lancaster and Palmdale have brought to us by their reckless planning!
John Mlynar says
@ Really – I didn’t think we were arguing. Sorry if you took it that way. You made a point, I made a point. More of a discussion on an issue? Can we can agree to disagree on things like one city, etc.
My point is that it’s pretty much simple economics as to why there would be more Section 8 vouchers in the AV than Santa Clarita. The fact is Santa Clarita is closer to metropolitan LA, and therefore has higher real estate prices. The farther from LA, the lower the prices. So, a Section 8 voucher will get you more house for your money in the AV than in Santa Clarita. I’m not saying that is good, right, or anything. I’m just saying it boils down to economics.
Sorry Im used to having to carry a pocket knife while trolling this site! I think you are right in many ways, and we agree on a lot, I didnt mean that Santa Clarita had an outright secret plan to send us their Section 8. But they obviously have a better grasp on ways to keep section 8 out of their community. I am not saying a big city is the only option but how else can the cities get on the same page to better this community? You are right about closeness to LA. This is why industry and manufacturing are so important, they can blither all day about the new store or restraunt, those are ways for locals to spend money. Thats a loser ( although nice and welcome) but we must find way to bring money to this community so it can stand on its own and not just be a commuter town.
John is right. The recipient is given a voucher worth “X” amount that they can use anywhere in LA Co. They can get a small, older home or apartment in Santa Clarita or any other “down below” location or a nice, big, relatively new home here in the AV. Guess what they have been choosing? People need to stop blaming the cities and start blaming those responsible for this program.
John Mlynar says
@really – no need for swords with me! I enjoy healthy dialogue and exchange of ideas. I bet we agree on quite a lot. Keep posting!
North County says
Hmmmmmmmm – This was just “approved” … ??? – I thought parolees and probationers were always welcomed with open arms by The LA County Housing Authority … It seems that being on parole or probation is a mandatory requirement in order to qualify for assistance; Meanwhile the people who are truly DESERVING of this assistance get put on the back burner because the spineless Board Of Supervisors has once again caved into pressure from all of the bleeding hearts who represent the “oppressed” criminals of society. A total joke and slap to the face to the rest of us who not only have to pay their rent but now have almost no fallback to address yet another problematic Section 8 house in their neighborhood.
Regardless of whether or not you love/hate old Rex Parris, at least he has the balls to attack and address the issue and problem of The Antelope Valley being used as a septic tank for the rest of LA County. HUD/Section 8 is the #1 reason this valley turned into a crime riddled mess; In late 1988 and 1989 when the aerospace boom crashed, it sent an influx of AV residents into foreclosure and HUD really started planting their roots here because of the favorable and plentiful housing market. Within weeks the crime rate went up as trash from Los Angeles came here for affordable housing; A lot of good people also came, but the bad ones overshadowed the good and that was the beginning of the end for the AV. Scumbags from all races and ethnic backgrounds saw the AV not as an escape from poverty and crime ridden ghettos, but instead as a new place to set up shop and continue building on their criminal activities. They reproduced like rabbits and their offspring learned from their parents. In addition, friends, family and neighbors of these people saw the opportunity was favorable for setting up shop, so word quickly spread that this was the place to come. After over a decade of piss poor leadership from the likes of former Mayor Frank Roberts and Hearns, the criminals flourished. Parris came in and cleaned house. Now he, the cities of Palmdale and Lancaster, the Sheriff’s Dept and every fed up decent tax paying citizen is now labeled as a racist for stepping up and purging the trash from the AV. The Board of Supervisors could care less. You can bet your next check that none of them live in a neighborhood surrounded by Section 8 trash. They are far removed from that element in gated and plush communities; It’s easy to approve a policy, as long as it’s not in THEIR community.
Right on NC, perfectly said!
North County says
Thank You ! I’ve been a lifelong resident of the AV and I’ve watched the qaulity of life decline here for the past 15 years because of this mess.
Plz Leave The AV says
Your post is perfect, i couldn’t have said it better. You gave some insight and history on why the AV is the way it is.
Abdul Majeed Askia says
No sir. You are incorrect!Many failed to realize that when a person
gets out of jail,camp or prison they have served their time. Unfortunately with all the religious people in our society the
vast majority doesn’t seem to really believe in forgiving,mercy,
repentance,remorse or change. I agree up hearing about how jesus
died for our sins and if we would accept him as our lord and savior
our sins would be forgiven! However,the new age of professed believers
hold gruges,animosity and hatred.We all know the story of the prositute
who had sinned,the one wherein Jesus told the crowd”who ever has not
sinned cast the first stone!”Afterwards Jesus told the prositute to go
and sin no more.Todays attitude is eternal damnation!!!The person
might have been sentence to prison for one year,two,three or four or
less,but the public treats the person or people as though they
were never to return to socity.The idea is to never let the person
off of the hook!Amazing!!!Why all the religion and praying if there
is no forgiveness and no recourse? Why all the preaching and
praising the lord whatever the religion if there is no forgiveness
and the public is going to pursue you forever,eternal punishmnet?
I know this sounds painful but it forever reminds me of six million
jews being put in ovens and the millions of African slaves tossed
to the sharks and yet the bible,the Qur’an and all sorts of saintly
scripts were in existence!!!Five hundred years of slavery and
segregation with the bible in hand. How could this be? The vast
majority evidently could careless what the bible or holy Qur’an
said! Religious people can be scary!!!God said this and God said
that and yet be as evil as all out doors!
Thank God for the consitution and let us pray that there are always
people who will up hold it because self righteous people can get
out of hand! Thats why we have laws because some people don’t realize
that when you have served your time,you have served your time!!!
I am a person of faith. I have my shares of sins and falling short
but the idea is to keep pressing forward not to give in to negativity.
As paul would say put on the whole armor of God.The self righteous
attitude is has totally overlooked forgiveness or repentance!My God!
The Holy Qur’an speaks of forgiveness and mercy. It says that God
is most gracious most merciful!!!But you don’t see that in the world,
you see oppression and injustice in the name of religion and in the
name of God! Religious people can be scary. I will be the first
to confess my sins but it is a whole nother story when religion is
used and abused to enslave people and create classism,royalism and
and these other isms to exclued people. Yes, I am aperson of God
but it sure looks like religious people don’t want to acknowledge
their own scriptures of forgiveness and the past!!!
Probationers/Parolees are the new scapegoat!The question
is when do you stop? Evidently the law has to step in to stop some
folks from going too far. The law has to step in and it saying
these paralees and probationers and ex-cons are longer confined
because they served the sentence alotted to them,now it is time
for them to re-adjust to society to become productive citizens.
Forgiveness folks! If not forgiveness you still have to realize
they have served there time!
North County says
No Sir -You’re incorrect; When a criminal is released from prison and required to comply with certain rules set forth under the condition of his/her parole they HAVE NOT completed and served the entire sentence imposed on him/her by the court. They are under a “Supervised Released” status and while prison was one part of their sentence, the parole is the other part.
I expect you to reply back with a 1000 page thesis about the injustices and tribulations you and your followers have endured over the past 100,000 years – But again,I ask you: How is it justifiable and fair for a convict on parole to cut in line in front of an old lady or disabled person (who have never committed a crime, so therefore redemption and re-adjustment back into society isn’t a factor) to receive social assistance ??? I never brought religion into this debate, nor have I attacked your character.
I believe in redemption and second chances too; Yet I sure in the hell don’t think that an ex con clutching a bible should get preferential treatment over a 75 year old senior citizen who HAS NEVER committed any crime when it comes to handouts from the Government. It appears we disagree. We probably always will. I’m awaiting your thesis response of religious irrelevance. At some point during your novel sized response can you get to the point and answer my original question? How is it fair to let an ex con and/or parolee cut to the front of line? Before you accuse me of being an infidel, let me point out that I am a spiritual person. I believe in a heaven and hell, God and the Devil; I’m just not a member of any one of their thousands of fan clubs here on this planet. I come from a place where thinking is based off of logic, reason, fairness and common sense. And all of these are attacked when the powers in charge green light and give the thumbs up to a program that gives priority and preferential “VIP” treatment to ex cons (regardless of whether or not they have “redeemed” themselves) over that of a person who has not committed a crime. Good Day to you Abdul.
Actually, IF (and by no means do I put stock in Parris’ blithering about it – I’ll look into it myself first) this is accurate, then I would have a problem with such a change in the Section 8 program allowing ANYBODY to ‘cut in line’ in front of elderly and disabled applicants already in waiting.
North County says
I wish it was an “IF” – But no, it’s confirmed – Check the minutes from the board meeting – It’s all in there. Before anyone gets all worked up over it, remember this is NOTHING new; Section 8 has always been a nesting and breeding ground for criminals, parolees/probationers; There is absolutely ZERO incentive for an able bodied person to get their asses off of public assistance when the system is so corrupt and ass backwards. And before any Al Sharpton wannabees try to jump on this post and label me as a hate filled racist, relax. I know there are plenty of people (in assorted shapes and colors)in the AV who are DESERVING of this assistance. Hard working families who like all families from time to time, have found themselves down on their luck – They get the shaft from a system that was designed to help folks who are down on their luck. A short term ‘hands up’ not a life long ‘handout’ – What I have always been outspoken about is when some crackwhore with 9 kids from 10 different fathers is able to live in a brand new six-bedroom house with a pool. Enter her various career criminal boyfriends, his posse of shady friends, and all of the assorted friends and family members and you have one hell of a problem on your hands if you live within a 1/2 mile range of this mess. Then when the “man” comes and conducts a compliance check and do in fact FIND a vast assortment of dope, guns, YOUR appliances and MY lawn mower in the the garage and arrest the homeowner, here comes the “Community Action League” with a 6 shoe deck of race cards to toss around. The same old song and dance; The tenant was only targeted because of her race, bla bla bla… Never mind the effin’ fact that her house was a hub of criminal activity. That’s what burns me up. This issue isn’t about equality for the homeless or giving a parolee a “second chance” – It’s purely a [removed] smokescreen by our chicken [removed] County Supervisors; They are basically admitting that they cannot control nor enforce the vast amount of fraud and rampant corruption within the LA County Housing Authority. The County answers to the Feds and all of the douchebags in charge of this ‘entitlement lottery’ live far farrrrrr away from the battlefield. They get a nice six figure income and live in nice houses in even nicer neighborhoods where you’d never see an abandoned shopping cart or an Escalade parked on the dirt of what used to be a green and well maintained yard… Sean Rogan, the current “Director” (well, at least this month) of the LA County Housing Authority is just as mentally disabled and corrupt as the former director, Carlos Jackson. And I can assure you that neither of those two lames have ever lived near any “problem” tenants … They arrive home to gated communities with keypads and gate codes, and no Government funded rentals …
Sorry for your pain..
I don’t understand with all the cuts in everything due to the recession, teachers and firefighters laid off, etc., why is the Section 8 program untouchable as far as changes in the program. A $1,700 a month 5 bedroom/3 bath home w/pool should not be available for Section 8 vouchers. No way. 2 families could live in apartments, mobile homes or condos for the same cost. Why isn’t the program being overhauled?
Why is the government subsizing landlords to keep their rental income higher than it would be on the open market for those large homes? Single family homes shouldn’t even be eligible unless there is a special need such as wheelchair access or a large family not just to give recipients an upscale lifestyle. Unacceptable in these hard times. Plus, how do Section 8 renters afford the upkeep and utility costs of a large home anyway? Do they also get special rates from SoCal Gas & Edison?
I suspect that there is a ‘grapevine’ that people from LA hear all the ways to get a big home up here. LA doesn’t even have to openly advertise the affordablity of the AV. Word travels. I’d like to find out the makeup of the people who work in the agency and if they give priority on the waiting list to people like themselves rather than first come, first served. We all know how the world works. On Wall Street, it’s insider trading. I’m sure in the Section 8 program there is also ‘insider trading’ too.
Scott Pelka says
Hey folks lets not forget that all of the apts. built around lancaster blvd. are all subsidized housing. All of them. in a few years it will bring blight to the downtown area. At first Rex was blasting section 8 as being mostly felons and now they are hard working people. I wish he would make up his mind. Sounds like a flavor of the day sound bite for his election.
John Howard says
No it may be actually worse than that as it has been done in other areas where apartments start out subsidized. The subsidized option will be circumvented by people willing to pay more to live in a desirable area. This will result in little to no units being subsidized. But no one will be told to leave or that they are not the right type for the BLVD. It will again be a function of economics; However we’ll still hear cries of eviction and heartless action of the owners of the buildings..
The BLVD a ‘desirable area’ to live? I don’t think so. A couple of casual restaurants, a drug store and some banks and law offices. Anything, you have to drive a ways.
I heard Parris yapping on the local channel a while back, saying he’d like to sell his big home and live in a condo off the BLVD.
Don't dump on me L.A. says
Love him or hate him I don’t care but you got admit L.A. stupidvisors don’t have a clue about the distruction and blight that Section 8 can bring AND now allowing parolees to use this tax paying giveaway……Shame on you L.A. Stupidvisors!
Now don’t go using any logic and criticizing the county Board of Supervisors or saying that you agree with Rex. “Stinger” will come out of his spider hole and say “cha-ching…cha-ching…cha-ching!” and “$1.50 for the Parrisite” like he always does in his stupid, annoying and immature fashion.
Let’s not criticize anyone let alone The Thinker since tomorrow is a big day for him and for all those who adore him.
Matt S says
Vicki e says
This is wrong, my daughter who has tried to get sec.8 never been in trouble, trying to raise her boy on her own, can’t get section 8, but commit a crime, them she will….hold on let me go give her the good news…….
Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) says
Your daughter is eligible for “family reunification” part of section 8. If your daughter has a worker, have them ask about it.
Good timing on the day before the election. Guess your cancer news flash wore thin.
I understand people have problems with the mayor, I am not here to say who is right or wrong but for the love of god he is dead on with his comments this time… the section 8 program is horribly mismanaged and the city of Lancaster and Palmdale are being crapped on by the board of supervisors
Right on! The only hope we have to clean up the Section 8 abuse is for both Palmdale & Lancaster to unite! Why can’t we all fight together to claim our cities and stop allowing the low lifes to steal from the needy & disabled. The abusers are easy to find…they luv to brag!
Matt S says
WOW The only way we can “clean up the Section 8 abuse is for both Palmdale & Lancaster to unite!”
To funny. You guys aren’t even subtle. This is where “stinger” becomes believable. Somebody has to be paying somebody to say something like that.
Dude if you would get over your hatred for certain people you would see the merits of this… did I mention who should run the new town,,, no I didnt you ninny… I have lived in this valley for 20yrs and have always felt this way…. Our towns are interwoven people who live in plm shop in lan and vice versa… why not have one tax base? why not pursue industry together as opposed to battling eachother…
Matt please share with us all your wisdom on how we should tackle the Section 8 scam, so we can be rid of the slime buckets who are taking over our cities…I’m sure there would be plenty of residents ready to do their part. What is the solution? Please share…
Unite. Where would City Hall be located?
Matt S says
@Q. Overbuilding. Every decade. Then, like clock work, the market busts. Housing has lost up to 40% of it’s value. Guys that can buy a duplex for a mil in LA come here and buy 4 big, new houses for a mil. And rent to Section 8. Duh! Like the willfully ignorant.
“Why do they send all their Section 8 to us? Wah!”
Because we got the landlords ready and willing to rent to them.
Matt S says
@really…. why would we want to share in the misery? Doesn’t matter who you think will RULE. All it takes is one idiot like Rex to drag the whole valley into his cesspool. We get the downgraded bond rating. The dozen lawsuits. The landfill. The flushing of the whole valley’s bond money into some black hole. $100’s of millions in bad debt. Federal investigations. A bunch of yokels looking at each other going, “I’m not responsible for lost $50 mil.”
The stench of racism and classism.
Who are you really? Scott? Rex? Visco? Runners? Antonovich?
The guys didn’t leave you your cut?
You one of the minor players looking to help them suck the last dollar out of the rest of the valley? So you can retire in one of your OTHER homes? Far from here?
The voters deserve what they get.
Matt S says
What’s sad is the number of posters here saying “love him or hate him, he at least…….”.
Nothing like setting the bar really really low! The local players got you all frothing at the mouth against Section 8 while they wipe out the city coffers. And Rex isn’t much more then the real power’s toy. One that has brought to much attention to their cash cow.
How about creating the Antelope Valley planning commision…Set strategic goals and standards for development of the valley as a whole… First order of business; moratorium on new home construction, find a way to make being a landlord painful, create standards of appearence for business’s… Sick of driving through parking lots where stores look like they belong in a third world country, start bullying property owners whos property looks like crap, stop issuing liquor licenses, got back to having no taxi cab companies, refuse to grant business licenses for smoke shops pawn shops and nightclubs. Step two; both cities stop the wenis measuring contest and create a plan to attract manufacturing and industry. If you create jobs the cretins get forced out and working families come in… This is utopian but its part of whats needed to take this valley back
Adam Chant says
really – RE:Antelope Valley planning commission
That is already being done to some level, but as you can see by the letters to the editor and comments online. Not everyone likes being asked to clean up their business to reflect the desired businesses models the community is looking for. It’s easier to make accusations about having utilities turned off and asked to leave then actually doing what is already laid out in the long term plan.
John Mlynar says
@ Quigley – since section 8 is a federal program, residents of each city and incorporated LA County should contact their congressman, senators and president if they have issues with the program. The cities have no control of the program.
John Mlynar says
@ really – The cities of Palmdale and Lancaster have no jurisdiction over Section 8. It is a federal program that is administered by the County of Los Angeles. The cities had hired inspectors to oversee compliance of the program, but the County put a stop to it. Palmdale has a rental inspection program in place for all properties (section 8 and non section 8) Lancaster may have the same. Other than that, there is nothing the cities can do. If people do not like the way Section 8 is run, they should call or write to their congressman, senators and president.
Tim Ortega says
The cities of Palmdale and Lancaster may not have “jurisdiction” over it but they took a major role in creating the issue by rubber stamping acres and acres of tract homes built by KB, DR Horton and K Hovnanian. You cant gloss that over! I realize that your are in a public relations position with the city but lets be a little bit honest here, OK John? THE CITIES ARE LARGELY TO BLAME! Of course someone like you doesnt have to worry because you will probably take your city retirement money and move somewhere else while the rest of us are stuck and have to deal with the mes the people at the local city halls created. Just keep putting a smiley face on and glossing over it by blaming the county and the feds. Have a great night!
right on Tim! Couldn’t have said it better myself!
Love the fist under the chin Rex. Who are you today? Rodin’s The Thinker? Your vanity knows no bounds!