Company scams youth football team, how you can help

(Contributed photo of the Knight Hawks Youth Football team at play, and a sample of the jerseys which were paid for but never delivered.)

(Contributed photo of the Knight Hawks Youth Football team at play, and a sample of the jerseys which were paid for but not delivered.)

By Palmdale resident Antoinette Williams

My husband and I run a youth football program in Palmdale called Knight Hawks Youth Football and Cheer.

We’ve been running the program without much help for five years.

We ordered our uniforms online through a company called West Coast Team Apparel and dealt with the owner Herb Fullerton.

On Sept. 3rd, Mr. Fullerton sent an email to my husband saying our uniforms were ready and that he needed final payment. I sent him out final payment, and to date, we still don’t have our uniforms. After the Sept. 3rd email, Mr. Fullerton started ignoring our call, texts and e-mails.

He had sent me a sample jersey via fed-x, and I was able to find out that he has the uniforms manufactured at a company called Rioxin Sports in Pakistan. I sent an email to Rioxin and received a response from them saying they were waiting for payment from Herb Fullerton.

Ever since, I have been going back and forth with both Fullerton and Rioxin with each one saying the other is lying. The worst part of this is that our players are suffering because they don’t have uniforms, and we’ve played four of our eight games already.

We have upset parents and kids. Since we paid for the uniforms, and parents still owe money, we don’t have the money to replace the order. I guess I’m sending this message so no one else will use either one of these companies.

The company in Pakistan, Rioxin Sports said they would send our uniforms if we send them a partial payment. If your readers could help us with the $1,800 payment, that would at least allow us to get our uniforms while we take legal action against Mr. Fullerton.

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Editor’s Note: The AV Times contacted West Coast Team Apparel owner Herb Fullerton. He confirmed that Knight Hawks Youth Football and Cheer paid his company for uniforms that were not delivered.

“I don’t make [the uniforms], I’m just the middle man,” Fullerton said, adding that a manufacturing company in Pakistan had walked away with the team’s money and was not returning his calls or emails. Fullerton said he also has a youth sports team, and he said the Pakistan company had failed to produce uniforms for his team, as well. Fullerton said the entire situation had caused him an untold amount of stress and was putting him “in bankruptcy.” He said he was committed to resolving the situation with Knight Hawks Youth Football and Cheer but could not say when it would be resolved.

How you can help

Knight Hawks Youth Football and Cheer is out $4,000 for undelivered uniforms, according to the team’s owners.  To help the team come up with the additional $1,800 needed to salvage the uniforms order, or to offer any other assistance, contact the team’s board members at or email

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  25 comments for “Company scams youth football team, how you can help

  1. sporty
    October 12, 2013 at 8:13 am

    Since parents paid money for uniforms, at least most of them, perhaps in lieu of seeking donations from the community, seek a small loan, get uniforms for the players, honor the commitment to the families who trust you and to whom your responsibilities lie, and move on. Sue all parties, take action and fight. But most of all, accept responsibility for your team. Or take money from your own savings?

  2. Concerned nana
    October 11, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    I would personally sue this Mr. Fullerton on Judge Judy’s show. Imagine the stuff she would do to him!!!!!!

  3. Diana
    October 11, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    God I would never pay that amount of money for such badly designed proofs in the first place. I would rather invest in a local company and pay for quality in-person services. Sorry this happened to your team! Hope you recover your losses.

  4. Metalchick
    October 10, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Here’s West Coast Team Apparel’s website and here’s their terms and conditions and if you read it, I think they look pretty sketchy. Also they are really really long!

    • sam
      October 13, 2013 at 4:56 pm

      Love to read it, but the links you provided don’t work…

  5. Coach
    October 9, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    Contact Jay at:

    Career Uniforms in Palmdale. You can reach him at Really Good!

  6. dick
    October 9, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    hey you could be scamming us

    • sam
      October 13, 2013 at 4:57 pm

      ya think? :o)

  7. Big SF 49ers Fan
    October 9, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Also I’ll will be donating but please be more carefull and support the local mom and pop, Family stores in our community let any store in our community know what happen I’m sure they would help in some way.

  8. Big SF 49ers Fan
    October 9, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    You need to go to A.V. Sports and order from them instead of trying to save a few bucks because you let parents not pay there fees. I’m sorry this happen to you but for 5 years running this program you would think you could have built a relationship with a sports store I’m sure any sports store that does this sort of thing would appreciate a returning costumer and make some sort of deal to have you return every year. Please don’t give this people anymore money and if you decide to do it a C.O.D. Would work just fine if the product doesn’t get there you just don’t pay. Lesson learn good luck to your team.

    • Mike
      October 11, 2013 at 1:08 am

      If they want to save money don’t go to AV Sports that guy will rip you off ten times more!!!!

  9. Some people
    October 9, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Sounds like it is time to contact the state Attorney General in Sacramento. If this guy has done this to other teams try to get them to join you in filing a complaint about his actions.

  10. Hmm....
    October 9, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    File a complaint against West Coast Team Apparel at – many people check there to see if a company is a scam before doing business with them.

    Does Herb Fullerton have any proof that he sent the money to Rioxin Sports? I am sure he does not send envelopes full of cash to Pakistan, he MUST have a transaction record he can show – if not, then HE is the one pulling the scam. Sue his pants off.

    And learn a valuable lesson – some websites can look professional but can actually be a struggling business run out of someones garage by one or 2 people, and $4000 was simply too tempting to resist taking. Find a site that has good reviews from customers you can verify. And just to be on the safe side, I would not send any cash to Rioxin Sports.

  11. Makayla
    October 9, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    I’m sorry, but there is no way I would donate money to send to the same people who screwed you to begin with. If they screwed you once, why would you assume they wouldn’t do it again. It’s common sense. It would make more sense (and be better judgement) to spend the $1800 with another company who does everything “in house”. There are tons of other companies that make uniforms. Go to someone else. And maybe the football/cheerleaders can hold some type of car wash or fundraiser to help make some of the money as well.

    On a side note, I don’t believe Herb Fullertons story as well. I don’t believe he has his own youth football team and I don’t believe he is also getting screwed. He is making excuses. It doesn’t matter if he is the middle man. He is still responsible. The Knights are in a business contract with him and his company…not the company in Pakistan. They can sue him directly and he in turn can sue the Pakistan company. It’s not the knight football teams responsibility to deal with the Pakistan company at all. Stop getting the run around and do something about it!

  12. qt-vero
    October 9, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    If the company in Pakistan is willing to work with you. You should have them sent it as POD (PAID ON DELIVERY) if they refuse, then that should tell you that they are fraud. And use any donation money to buy local uniforms here in the AV.

    October 9, 2013 at 5:43 pm


    • Alex
      October 11, 2013 at 9:20 pm


  14. Justin
    October 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    If the order was made online, it was not made with cash, it was made with a credit card. The Williams simply need to file a claim with the credit card company that they used and the money will be returned to them. There is no need for contributions from the community.

    • Kayli
      October 9, 2013 at 5:48 pm

      Your assuming this order was made on someone’s credit card, but my experience with these sorts of things leads me to believe the parents’ payments were deposited into a team bank account. The middle man more than likely took the funds for the uniforms through electronic funds transfer (same as cash) because that is the only way he would be able to pay the Pakistanian company, which then scammed everyone.
      If you don’t want to contribute, fine, but don’t try to demean the effort and make assumptions, especially when you have obviously never managed a community youth team!

  15. Adam Chant
    October 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    OMFG! Again?
    Didn’t this just happen last year? Yes it did!
    Lancaster Eastside Lions had a similar thing happen last year for basically the same reasons. Rather than support local businesses in the AV that have been fulfilling youth sports apparel orders for 30+ years they go to an unknown source.
    Not only did they NOT get their order, but they jeopardize jobs in the Antelope Valley.
    Fool me once shame on you..

  16. notagain
    October 9, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND THEM ANYMORE MONEY!!!! you are not going to get nothing they just want more money this guy is boogas if he was just the middle man do you think by now he would have stop doing bussiness with crooks obviously he is also part of theses crooks just sue the pants off this guy and please next time be more informed when you are using parents money to buy uniforms

  17. AVGirl
    October 9, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    This is a simple fix, file a small claims case against West Coast team Apparel

    It very cheap to file, $35 I beleive

    • Antoinette
      October 10, 2013 at 2:08 pm

      Thank you!

  18. Robert Brady
    October 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    PLEASE do not give this man Herb, or Rioxin Sports, the Pakistan company, any more money. Count your losses and deal locally.

  19. Michael
    October 9, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    This guy has been doing this for years to youth groups, Eastside I know and some other teams around the valley he needs to be stopped. BTW he is the middle man but he is responsible your deal is with him not pakistanian company. take him to court and file against him.

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