UPDATED: Elderly man shot dead by deputies

The deputy-involved shooting occurred shooting death was the second shooting death one in Littlerock Thursday morning. An earlier shooting a man dead and a woman wounded. (Photo by LUIS MEZA)

The deputy-involved shooting death happened while deputies were serving a narcotics search warrant at a residence in the 36600 Block of 117th Street East in Littlerock, authorities said. (Photo by LUIS MEZA)

LITTLEROCK – An 80-year-old man was shot dead Thursday morning after he pointed a semi-automatic handgun at deputies inside a Littlerock home, authorities said. The man’s weapon, marijuana, and marijuana growing equipment were recovered at the scene, according to a press report by the Sheriff’s Homicide Bureau.

The deputy-involved shooting death happened around 7:30 a.m. Thursday (June 27) at a home in the 36600 Block of 117th Street East in Littlerock.

Deputies from a narcotics unit were serving a narcotics search warrant at the residence, when deputies encountered an 80-year-old man in a back bedroom who was armed with a semi-automatic handgun, the press report states.

The man pointed the handgun at deputies and a deputy-involved shooting occurred, the press report states.

(Photo by LUIS MEZA)

The man was pronounced dead at the scene. (Photo by LUIS MEZA)

The man was hit by gunfire and was pronounced dead at the scene. No deputies were injured during the incident.

The man’s name has not yet been released pending next of kin notification.

He was the only person inside the location at the time of the incident.

The location was a multi-unit property resulting in several residents being detained for questioning in relation to the deputy-involved shooting, the sheriff’s press report states.

All residents were later released.

Whenever an officer-involved shooting occurs involving Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies and it results in a fatality, multiple independent investigations begin at the scene. These include separate investigations by the Offices of the L.A. Co. District Attorney and the L.A. Co. Coroner, in addition to Sheriff’s Homicide Bureau and Internal Affairs Bureau.

Attorneys with the Los Angeles Office of Independent Review also respond to the scene, and have full access to the facts known to the sheriff’s department throughout every phase of the investigation. Once concluded, every aspect of the shooting is reviewed by the Sheriff’s Executive Force Review Committee.

Previous related story: Deputy-involved shooting death in Littlerock

UPDATED 6/28/13: The man killed in the deputy-involved shooting Thursday (June 27) has been identified as 80-year-old EUGENE MALLORY of Littlerock, according to the Los Angeles County Coroner’s Office.

  100 comments for “UPDATED: Elderly man shot dead by deputies

  1. Shane Falco
    October 16, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    I’ve known deputies (Metten, Knott, Bishop, Sgt. Acton, Det’s Gordon and Torsney) from the palmdale station that have been involved in illegal searches and then doctored the evidence after the fact in order to bootstrap their warrant, all while knowing they were conducting illegal searches which culminated in their cases being dismissed.

    I’ve also known of deputies busting in doors at dawn with legal law abiding citizens, not knowing what’s happening, grab their own gun for protection (a well known doctor, a correctional officer, a business owner) and each nearly being shot by deputies….who were searching the wrong addresses or were on 40th street west…instead of 40th street east but still searched their homes and completely innocent homeowners in order to justify their search.

    Deputies are supposed to knock and announce their presence before breeching the door but in the situations. Somebody mentioned “rookies” making these mistakes which would be somewhat understandable, but what’s worse is that these are seasoned veterans who know enough to cover their butts by any means necessary.

    • badcops
      October 16, 2013 at 10:49 pm

      that guy torney is a real dirty cop he was involved in a case and conviscated evidence that would have the “suspect”prove his innocence but torsney destroyed he is a real prick and is a very dirty cop I hope one day he get investigated ..he lies under oath and thinks he s abve the law ..hitler looking wannabe

  2. Deanna mallory
    October 16, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    this was my grandfather who was such a wonderful man and these people just read and go based on what was said u dont know [removed] so please again this man has family and justice will be served and our grandpa will be at peace

  3. Deborah Dugger
    July 10, 2013 at 12:45 am

    AV GIRLYOU SURE have some blinders on here…I would like to know how many people you know hat work until they are74…name me just one..in fact that was the example this man was…And now imagine if you do happen to have one person dear to you being gunned down in his own home after not even having a traffic ticket in their entire life for a…” bogus insinuation” not proven.. This man’s whole life was spent…not breaking the law to be able to work at this aerospace company…to work in the capacity that he worked ..Have some respect for this man’s life will you..Talk about hard hearted..Imagine this being someone you knew and were proud of..All you are thinking about is some precious self serving ‘idea’that has gien you some personal gain..Absolutely no empathy for the man that was slain..none whatsoever…What is wrong here..A man goes his whole life being a model citizen and then doesn’t deservre the benefit of his worth..Geez woman he was a human being…Not a dog that needed to be gunned down because he lied in the wrong neighborhood..or was too visually impaired to see what was coming at him…This is all wrong..and all I see is a cold hearted response to a social issue….When did you stop having empathy for the aged?

  4. James Sosa
    July 1, 2013 at 6:48 am

    NEVER EVER, EVER, EVER point a gun at a cop. The results are not going to be good !

    • Deborah Dugger
      July 9, 2013 at 10:24 pm

      He was a blind man..had special glasses…tinted yellow so he could see..police need to not barge into blind mans house at 84 years of age and come in so heavy handed..for an 84year old that worked until he was 74…at Palmdale Loockheed…he lived in a “bad neighborhood…He was protecting himself from a break in…at that time in the morning..He was shot in bed…The blood was all over his pillow case…Murdered in his bed…He probably didn’t see or know who it was breaking into his house…

      • sarah mallory
        July 9, 2013 at 11:27 pm

        hello my name is sarah mallory and want to thankyou for sticking up for my grandfather and am glad to know you know the truth about what happen.

    • Deborah Dugger
      July 10, 2013 at 12:49 am


  5. -Samuel R Caldwell
    June 28, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Its time for a outside look at our sheriff dept like rampart had awhile back. Murder for a plant?

    • Rosa
      June 28, 2013 at 12:24 pm

      With all due respect, he didn’t point the PLANT at the deputies.

    • AVGirl
      June 28, 2013 at 6:07 pm

      he was not shot because he had marijuana, he was shot because he was pointing a gun at the officers. It then becomes a matter of public safety once that happens.

      • sammy P
        June 29, 2013 at 11:41 am

        we don’t know what happened because we were not there – the gun could have been in his hand and not pointed – it could have been sitting on a table and some rookie cop got overexcited and opened fire. Ya know, we have the technology now days to put tiny video cameras on a cops shirt pocket, or shoulder and they weigh almost nothing and then it would be much easier to investigate raids like this, but cops would be against it, because it would severely hamper their ability to lie when things go wrong.

        You would think that videotaping a raid would be mandatory when we have people losing their lives over pot plants.

        And now we have to take their word for it as to what happened. Well I don’t take their word for it.

        • AVGirl
          June 29, 2013 at 3:07 pm

          In most cases, raids are not conducted by rookie cops for the very reasons you stated. And in some cases, things are video tapped.

          There will be an internal investigation to verify the officer’s stories.

          • Deborah Dugger
            July 9, 2013 at 10:25 pm

            This was a rookie response AVGIRL

          • copavgirl
            October 16, 2013 at 10:52 pm

            internal investigations are done by their own friends therefore nothing comes out of it and avgirl bet ur a cop being so close minded

      • sarah mallory
        July 9, 2013 at 11:29 pm

        My grandfather did not point a gun at officers he was murdered. Please dont make a comment if your info is incorrect. thankyou

      • Deborah Dugger
        July 10, 2013 at 12:50 am


        • avcops
          October 16, 2013 at 10:56 pm


  6. dumbandblind
    June 28, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Was the warrant for the 80 Yr. old man or for someone else? Did the deputies made themselves known before entering/busting the door? The old man was probably startled and was only trying to protect himself from unknown people with guns drawn. If he was also under the influence how could he have drawn his weapon quick enough much more shoot when we all know the effects of pot. Of course we are all told that he pointed his weapon at the deputies which in turn justified their actions… it’s too bad we can’t hear his side of the story.

  7. sammy P
    June 28, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Another senseless death that could have easily been avoided. This will continue to happen until the public becomes fed up with it and takes action to change the laws so that cops can only break into your home in the most extreme of circumstances. The cops could have just knocked on his door and explained to the man that they needed to search the property, but that wouldn’t be much fun for the cops would it? I find it hard to believe that the cops couldn’t have retreated from the back bedroom to give the man time to understand that it was the police and time to put down his gun, but again, that wouldn’t be much fun for the cops would it?

    I hope the judge who signed this warrant feels bad, because he/she didn’t take the time to consider if there was another way this could have been handled besides sending a death squad into this mans home.

    • Dew
      June 28, 2013 at 10:10 am

      Because just knocking on the door and hoping people answer, without first destroying evidence, would work. Obviously the cops are just in it for the kicks. The old man wouldn’t possibly shoot at anyone wearing all of that gear. Oh yeah how many cops were shot in LA alone last week?

      • sammy P
        June 28, 2013 at 11:00 am

        I am not saying it should be the same for every case, but when an 80 year old man is killed in his own home over some pot plants then something is very wrong with the system.

        “Obviously the cops are just in it for the kicks” yes. that is exactly what I am saying. if you want to live in a fantasy world and believe that the cops are sad after a shooting and need counseling then you feel free to believe that. Thats what they want the public to believe. Truth is, they all high-fived each other and probably went out drinking that night and retold the story of how cool it was to be able to kill someone.

        I used to believe that cops are good, decent and honest people who are doing a job and protecting our fine citizens.. but if you live in a bad neighborhood long enough and have to deal with cops, you come to understand thats not the case at all.

        • Dew
          June 28, 2013 at 12:59 pm

          “Truth is, they all high fived each other.” You saw this of course therefore; your certainty. “They probably all went out drinking that night” If they did, good. I have a drink now and then after a crappy day at work too. You sure have an interesting perspective. I do too, A few years back a Deputy got in a shoot out by Anvers and Norberry. I saw the Deputy arresting the driver of the car the shooter had been in. His celebration? He asked the driver “What in the F#*@ did he do that for?” (shocking I know someone who just got shot at swore). Some Deputies showed up afterwards and they DID pat the Deputy on the back. They all congratulated him on being alive and well and being able to continue working the next day. What I guess was a supervisor drove up and took him away while others handled the crime scene. I was very impressed with what I saw.

          • Fed Up
            June 29, 2013 at 11:22 am


          • Deborah Dugger
            July 9, 2013 at 10:36 pm

            He was 84 years old and blind…I think…you should be ashamed…for coming to this..You should know…that a 84 year old man..needed to know it was the police…This is ‘rookie” behavior…hyped up testosterone with a badge…This man was a employee for A local aerospace company until he was 74…Going to work wearing special glasses so he could see working with a disability until he couldn’t see anymore…These sheriffs needed to do their ‘homework”…This man was sleeping with a gun by the bed……IDIOTS..YOU SHOT A DISABLED MAN TRYING TO PROTECT HIMSELF BECAUSE HE DIDN’T FEEL SAFE…IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.BAD NEIGHBORHOODS,GUNS BY THE BEDSIDE…SELF PROTECTION..IT’S A “NOBRAINER”..THE SHERIFFS SCREWED THIS ONE UP…I

    • Uncle Tom
      June 28, 2013 at 11:08 am

      Unless you where there, and understand how search warrants are conducted, then you have no idea what you are talking about.

      So lets see, you want to give criminals time inside a structure or location to gather additional weapons, destroy evidence, and possible take some well placed shots at law enforcement personnel. Ya..sure buddy.

      You only hear about the few times that incidents (searches, traffic stops, etc) go down badly (either for the cops or criminals), and rarely if ever hear about the myriad of times that things go smoothly.

      This will be investigated by a number of agencies, as all law enforcement shootings that result in a death, and it will be determined if procedures were followed, if there was justification, and what, if any, changes can or will be made to procedures in the future.

      I very seriously doubt the deputies who shot the man are proud of killing him. But I sure in there head they would do the same again, because they want to go home to their families. Day in day out law enforcement personnel go out and go after the crap that most people are trying to get away from. It’s their job to deal with the dirt and scum of society while others get to live their lives hopefully without having to face the same crap.

      These brave men and women go out and stand ready to do bad things so good people can sleep easy at night. I support them, I support our community.

      • sammy P
        June 28, 2013 at 11:25 am

        I used to think just like you. You need to go live in a bad neighborhood for a while, and get stopped just for walking down the street, or get arrested when you are totally 100% innocent- then come back here and tell us how nice the cops were and how professionally they acted (lol)

        Who decides who the “dirt and scum of society” is Tom? the cops? Is an 80 year old man who grew some pot plants the “dirt and scum of society”?

        Look around your house Tom, everyone has secrets.. I bet if they searched your place they would find some reason to treat you like the “dirt and scum of society”.

        • June 28, 2013 at 12:10 pm

          The key is- Don’t live in a bad neighborhood. Problem solved. I want the cops stopping people on a hunch. They tend to know who is up to no good.

          • Dew
            June 28, 2013 at 12:43 pm

            I agree Otto, Sammy, you sound like you had a bad encounter and are doing the same sterotyping people accuse cops of doing. I wonder what it is you were “innocent” of.

          • June 28, 2013 at 7:29 pm

            Yeah, I love it when people say “They stopped me for no reason”. There’s always just a little bit more to the story.

          • Deborah Dugger
            July 9, 2013 at 10:48 pm

            OK OTTO>>Call us back when you’re a pensioner…trying to live on a pensioners salery…at 84….IF..the sheriff’s had gien this man time to wake up and realize…it wasn’t a “home invasion’…This man would still be alive..and living the retirement a man who worked until 74..deserves..He was disabled…and couldn’t see…wore special glasses…When looking for the all terrible marajuana..and an 84 year old man is the suspect (WHICH I CAN”T BELIEVE)..ADAPT your proceedure..This was a sham..and evidence was planted..This man had a squeeky clean life ..working for an aerospace company with a security clearance..QUIT DEFENDING..THIS POSITION..YOU ARE JUST MAKING YOURSELF LOOK REALLY STUPID…AND PLEASE..DON”T BE PROUD>>OF SHOOTING THIS MAN>>>SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG HERE>>>AND IF YOU CANNOT SEE THIS YOU ARE DELUDING YOURSELF

        • AVGirl
          June 28, 2013 at 7:18 pm

          I actually work in a bad neighborhood and get stopped on occasion. I am out of place and police are suspicious. So they hassle me a bit, big deal. So they ask me lots of questions, I answer them and am on my way. I would rather them stop me a million times then have them let 1 criminal get away.

          • Willis Newton
            June 30, 2013 at 8:12 am

            Thanks for showing your true colors.

            “better one hundred guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer.” — Ben Franklin

            “better one hundred innocent Persons should suffer than that one guilty Person should ecape.” — AVGirl

          • AVGirl
            June 30, 2013 at 9:58 am

            @Willis, did I say others should suffer? I said I can be stopped, as in I am accepting that for myself not for others who may disagree.

            Besides that quote is talking about finding someone actually innocent being found guilty, not just stopping them. It has been used in arguing the death penalty, a far cry from being stopped by the police.

        • Fed Up
          June 29, 2013 at 11:25 am

          Everyone has secrets…..really. That is funny. I don’t break the law. I welcome deputies in my home anytime, pull me over anytime. If you follow the law you should not have to worry. If everyone has secrets then no wonder the AV cops are so busy!

          • Willis Newton
            June 30, 2013 at 8:15 am

            yepp. who needs the fourth amendment anyways.

      • mint-n-chip
        June 28, 2013 at 12:46 pm

        I agree fully with you Uncle Tom. We need the police and I fully appreciate them and what they do everyday.

        Its a shame this happened the way that it did and we do not know if the warrant was actually for someone else staying in the home and this elderly man was startled and was trying to defend himself when he heard someone inside but he most likely knew of the plants. If they werent his and belonged to someone elese who also lived in that home it is a big shame this happened. But,if someone is breaking the law, and they allow it to happen in their home they are in effect condoning it,…. well thats the first bad choice they are making and sooner or later they are going to bear the bad consequences….hopefully not these terrible consequences but it is totally possible and it does happen.

        Hopefully more details will come to light on this. If someone else lived in that home and they are the ones responsible for the marijuana plants then they should feel and I hope they feel extremely terrible, but hey…dont put your family in danger!! Its not worth it!

      • sarah mallory
        July 13, 2013 at 3:35 pm


        • carl
          October 5, 2013 at 12:48 am

          I knew Gene Mallory and have had occasion to have breakfast with him at Country Kitchen in Palmdale. He was a decent and honorable man and I don’t believe for a minute that he had any involvement with ANY Illegal activity. The fact that the Sheriffs Department has been closed mouth about the circumstances of this shooting, makes me wonder what really transpired that day. Since we have only one side of the story, we will probably never get the whole truth.

      • BJ
        October 30, 2013 at 6:20 pm

        What happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty in A COURT OF LAW?

        No knock warrants presume ALL PARTIES (including apparently the odd seven year old fast asleep on the sofa) are guilty of crimes so heinous that a commando style assault is not just warranted but mandated.

        BTW: This sort of incident is EXACTLY why CIVILISED nations (Yes that is a cheap shot at the USA.) forbid unsecured firearms in ALL circumstances and impose draconianly stringent restrictions on the circumstances in which one might be legitimately used in self defence or the defence of a third party.

        When faced with a firearm our (less than perfect) cops can rest assured that they’re either facing a bona fide criminal, or at the very least a properly deserving Darwinian idiot.

        And before the 2ndA crowd chimes, read the flaming thing properly, the wording makes it very, VERY clear that the right to bear arm pertains to the defence of the State/Nation as a whole against external threats. Or at best/worst, in combination with the preamble, legitimises an armed response to illegitimate governmental actions. ie. Mr Mallory was acting ABSOLUTELY WITHIN HIS CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHTS, when he raised his gun against invading cops, and the cops who killed him were acting in violation of those same rights every step of the way.

        To those who might want to excuse the police’s actions with arguments about their having to make split second decisions, should not the EXACT same courtesy be extended to the poor bastard woken from his sleep in the middle of the night, by the sounds of his front door being kicked in by who knows who? He either has the right to gun down as many cops as come through his door, or no-one has the right to shoot anyone without a full appreciation of the situation. (Or at the very least, being vindicated in EVERY LAST PARTICULAR, after the fact.)

        Realistically, how many cops die because they went in “too soft” compared to the number of complete innocents killed as a result of a hell for leather assaults carried about based on bad intelligence or an administrative error.

        Time to arm or dispose the evidence on the part of an actual criminal? Fine! One outgoing shot equals turning a house into a colander with all dead seven-year-olds recorded against the corpse holding the gun. WRT disposal, modern robotic technology is advanced enough to have a robot waiting in the sewers for any flushed evidence, and perhaps the PATRIOT act could be put to good use WRT the use of incendiary devices in the destruction of evidence insitu.

    • June 28, 2013 at 11:23 am

      Yeah, Samuel, “Excuse me sir, but we’d like to execute a search warrant at your home. Sorry to interfere with the sanctity of your home, but would you mind if we took a look around for narcotics?” Might work in the Land of Oz, but not in this crime-ridden town.

      • sammy P
        June 28, 2013 at 11:40 am

        I will say it again, every case is different.

        Lets not forget about the case of Matthew David Stewart- after returning home from being in the army he decided to grow some pot plants and of course the cops decided to bust into his house at 2am. Matthew killed one cop and wounded a few others before he realised they were police and surrendered.

        He hung himself in his jail cell because cops were making his life as miserable as possible while he awaited trial.

        Matthew worked at wal-mart, they could have easily picked him up at work or on the way home, but then the cops wouldn’t get to play “commando team” would they?

        Yes, “no knock” warrants ARE necessary sometimes, but for pot plants? What’s next? traffic tickets? expired registration?

        • Dew
          June 28, 2013 at 12:46 pm

          Sammy you are making the same assumption that the search warrant was for pot plants….. You know what they say about assuming. Unless you read the warrant, if that is the case enlighten us.

          • sammy P
            June 28, 2013 at 4:46 pm

            I have said my piece, – I can “enlighten” you with truth, but its human nature for people to never admit when they are wrong, and to instead follow their ego.

            don’t believe my words?.. then we agree to disagree.

        • AVGirl
          June 28, 2013 at 7:14 pm

          Sounds more like PTSD then being startled. Have you even read the details of the case you are talking about? Matthew David Stewart fired 37 shots…not 1 or 2 but emptied his gun into 6 police officers. That means he had to reload twice. He unloaded his gun into an already downed officer, can’t tell me that he didn’t know that was a police officer as he stood over him and shot him multiple times.

          You can’t compare the 2 cases, apples and oranges.

          • bj
            October 30, 2013 at 6:39 pm

            2nd amendment wording (in combination with the preamble) theoretically permits an innocent civilian to gun down any cop who crosses his threshold. 1, 2, or a thousand.

            The fact of a uniform is absolutely irrelevant, if a person has not committed any recognised crime, any cop who comes at him with deadly force is fair game.

    • AVGirl
      June 28, 2013 at 6:17 pm

      Yes that would have worked so well. “Knock Knock, excuse me we are from the police department and we would like to search your home if it isn’t too much of a bother.” “Oh sure, can you give me a minute while I flush all the evidence down the toilet?”

      The officers wear uniforms that unless you live in on the moon, are easily recognized. The man made a poor choice, the officers where not only protecting themselves but anyone in the vicinity. Retreating could have just given the man time to either escape or fire the gun.

      • Deborah Dugger
        July 9, 2013 at 11:05 pm

        AV Girl…The man was wears yellow tinted glasses because he “could not see clearly”..He needed his glasses to”light up ‘ the room. to distinguish objects….It was 7;30 in the morning…He was 84…with a profound visual deficit..What do you not understand…He was defending himself from a break in..People.wearing all black…people breaking in in the early AM…look like black things rushing at you..if you are practically..blind…The Sheriffs department murdered a visually impaired man man…trying to defend himself from a home invasion robbery..Testosterone with a badge against a man who worked hard his whole life and deserved better than THIS…

    • sarah mallory
      July 9, 2013 at 11:30 pm

      hello my name is sarah mallory and want to thankyou for sticking up for my grandfather and am glad to know you thank its wrong what the police did. once again thanks

      • Deborah Dugger
        July 14, 2013 at 3:40 pm

        There is a special investeistigation unit that provides money to sue in cases of’ extreme prejudice.’.being used on the disabled elderly.by policing agencies…..let me know where you are and I will get this to you…This is a case of extra-judicial murder Please Sarah…get ahold of me ..there is an organization for you to inform and civil rights have been violated here this case of ‘extreme prejudice”…to be tried in the courts..America is sick of extrajudicial murder against a elderly man liviing in peace..in his own house and defending himself against an aggressive intruder…in this case..a police department using extreme prejudice against the elderly.

        • Adam Mallory
          July 22, 2013 at 10:51 am

          Hey, can you forward this information to my email? Please thanks.

  8. PD
    June 28, 2013 at 8:53 am

    There should never have been a search warrant for narcotics.. This 80 year old man was smoking marijuana in his own property. He most likely had grow accessories because he cannot afford the cost of the medical card/dispensary prices. The police and narcotics teams should focus on serious drugs (meth) and leave the marijuana to those who choose to be lazy. The result of searching a house because of marijuana is a death.

    The priorities of the AV narcotics team is a joke.

    Enjoy your mounds of paperwork their sheriffs. I hope they are behind the desk for months filling out reports for an officer related death.

    • Dew
      June 28, 2013 at 10:13 am

      Just curious, how do you know that marijuana is what they were looking for?

      • PD
        June 28, 2013 at 10:23 am

        It is detailed in public record at the court house.

        • Dew
          June 28, 2013 at 12:46 pm

          and you read the warrant?

          • Dew
            June 29, 2013 at 3:53 pm

            By the way your name PD kind of gives perspective when it comes to your opinion of the AV narcotics team Mr. Public Defender.

          • Deborah Dugger
            July 10, 2013 at 8:46 am

            I doubt…that the man shot as able to’read” this warrant…Do You think…he got to read this warrant before the police …barged into his resideance…This man had spent his whole life.. obeying the law…He wasn’t given a chance to read…a warrant..I doubt he was given miranda rights, or even time to wake up…before this ‘Warrant”..killed this sleepy disabled elderly man…

        • sarah mallory
          July 9, 2013 at 11:32 pm

          hello my name is sarah mallory this is my grandfather you are talking about mind your business theres no need for you too look up public info about him if your not going to help the situation then theres no need for you to slander a 80 year old man.

      • Deborah Dugger
        July 9, 2013 at 11:18 pm

        Sounding a bit suspicious now…HmmmH..I hope the tables are turned soon for those involved here..The investigation for this needs to be put in every newspaper across this great nation of ours to show how bad you’ve become…defending the shooting of a visually impaired man that worked his whole life.How he faced Gestapo like Goons barging in and shooting him in his bed before he could determine what was going…and what for…The polluted minds of a narcotics squad..hell bent on GLORY..WELL wheres the glory here..Tell me that you are still proud..Go AHEAD..This story will go viral..believe me..There are people that worked side by side with this man that know the real story here..Floods of all three shifts know what you did here! This man needs to be indicated here from your lies…

  9. just me
    June 28, 2013 at 8:53 am

    being 80 had nothing to do with severity of the situation. The deputies were serving a narcotics warrant. A semi-automatic gun was pointed at them. Action was taken.

    If you don’t want to be shot, don’t point a gun at a cop.

    • Deborah Dugger
      July 9, 2013 at 11:22 pm

      Cops don’t need to be Gestapo Police over a search warrant for this issue. If you still feel this was justified.. This needs to be sent to the LosAngeles Times to let the real story get out I have already called .the editor.
      This needs to be debated in a larger venue..putting a blanket statement that it was justified just doesn’t wash…It is not justified ..It will never be justified…not for what happened….

    June 28, 2013 at 8:44 am


    • sikntired
      June 28, 2013 at 10:02 am

      Hey, the dopers of the sixties are getting old and if they never worked and accumulated social security, they have to make money somehow. Didn’t say if they had to break the door in, maybe they just woke him up and he was confused.

      • sikntired
        June 29, 2013 at 3:30 pm

        I have to take back my statement above after reading the story in the AVPress today.This man worked here in aerospace for many years and had secret clearance.More to this story than we are being told.

    • AVGirl
      June 28, 2013 at 6:25 pm

      it doesn’t actually say he was smoking the pot, only that it is was in his home. Chances are, it was the property of a grandchild or other relative.

    • sarah mallory
      July 9, 2013 at 11:34 pm

      My grandfather did not smoke pot nor was trying to hide a gun DONT SLANDER MY GRANDFATHERS NAME

  11. june28
    June 28, 2013 at 8:21 am

    Okay, so Guns are legal… But if you have one, look what happens if you point it at someone or use it, you either get shot at and possible killed, like in this case, or if you shoot at someone accidental or not you will possible go to jail for LIFE. Who wants that? not me.. The best thing to do is don’t do illegal things and act like a criminal or hang around criminality, and becareful if your going to point or use a gun.

    • AVGirl
      June 28, 2013 at 6:34 pm

      There is a huge difference between pointing a gun at a civilian and pointing one at a police officer.

      • sikntired
        June 28, 2013 at 8:34 pm

        How so?

        • Deborah Dugger
          July 9, 2013 at 11:31 pm

          The police barged into this mans house..The NRA needs to be involved here…his safety was being threatened by invaders in his home..Police need to ‘temper” their vigilencewith ethics..Where was the temperance and protection forthis man..He deserved better than this Tempering their zeal would have been more prudent..Black Bodies charging a visually impaired man early AM..Get a Grip..This was a botched job..defending a bad decision to charge in unannounced ..The man had a right to protect himself from the ‘unseen’…barging into his house when he was asleep..and just getting up..It WAS his house..and we are all innocent until proven guilty…The Sherriff has gotten themselves in a tight place and have condemned this man for doing what anyone over the age of sixty would do with black bodies charging at them in the early morning in their home…

    • Deborah Dugger
      July 10, 2013 at 10:24 am

      this man was not a criminaland didn’t “hang out’ with criminals..He had a security clearance and retired and was living in the house alone and afraidandhad a gun byhis bedside as many of us do…he was a model citizen with isual impairment..afraid..tobe murdered in his bed sohe ept a gun by his bedside…like many of us do…We have police to protect us…not murder us…Check this mans history he was a good guy…not criminal…He worked hard his whole life and retired with extreme isual impairment..Quit trying to cover up this police error..

  12. No name
    June 27, 2013 at 11:48 pm

    First off I know the family of this man, and I had met him several times through out my child hood, as I was close to the family. Before you all start judging you all need to get the facts straight, non of us all know the facts yet, nor does the family. Wait till more comes out. Especially lately with the cops just going around shooting and killing everyone. He was 80 years old for god sake. I just would like to know what happen to the cops just macing or bean bag shots, or other things (so many options they have, but instead the rather fire a gun). These cops now days are just either quota hungry, or murder happy. I am disgusted with the way things are. Not much any of us can do, but before we judge and say he should of known better lets get the facts or better yet if your going to judge… judge the corrupt system in which we live under.

    • AVGirl
      June 28, 2013 at 6:28 pm

      He could have avoided it by not pointing a gun at the officers. He made the bad decision.

      • Deborah Dugger
        July 9, 2013 at 11:48 pm

        Not bad decision..instinctive behavior for a person being assaulted…He was an honest man..being gone after like he was a hardened criminal…A man that had NEVER..had any confrontation with police in his life…He was defending himself in his home…from a group of seething charging aggressive black clothed bodies. with guns.shouting at him before he was able to wake up to know what was going on..Charging bodies..in a war zone…Except this man…had never met or suspected that it was the police…This mans life was reduced to the perverted conjurings of the minds of a police force gone wrong..A police force that couldn’t even imagine that the man could be their grandfather or grand uncle so visually impaired he couldn’t see what was coming at him…scared to death that a thug..was coming at him..Well that is what happened A police fore of ‘THUGS” came at him alright…killing a man because their contorted minds are bent…on getting all the 84 year old men who _MIGHT’ be doing something out there…even if there has NEVER…been a problem before..THIS MAN HAD NEVER HAD A RECORD OF DOING ANYTHING! He had a security clearance…iDIOTS!

      • Deannaproudmallory
        July 13, 2013 at 1:35 am

        my grandpa was a very smart man u dont understand do u

    • sarah mallory
      July 9, 2013 at 11:36 pm

      hello my name is sarah mallory and want to thankyou for sticking up for my grandfather and am glad to know you know the truth about what happen and know him for the great man he was.

      • Deborah Dugger
        July 9, 2013 at 11:59 pm

        He was an honest man and this needs to go to the Los Angeles Times to be researched and not let these narcotics yaa hoos besmearch his good name…This man WORKED UNTIL HE WAS 74 YEARS OLD..He was a good guy…he didn’t deserve the Gestapo at his door..Saying he was living in the wrong neighborhood is WAY BEYOND the PALE..This police force needs correcting for charging into this mans home and treating him like he was some drug ‘Kingpin”…Their minds are warped for considering this man a criminal that needed to be charged and his home invaded..Given this mans lifelong record..he needed to be treated with respect…and given the benefit of the doubt…BUT in this heightened sense of rabid..police work..something was forgotten…INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY…Good police work would have determined that this man was not a threat…NOT A THREAT…….WHO DECIDED THIS MAN WAS A THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY..GIVEN HIS RECORD>>>>WHO WAS THE IDIOT WHO OKY”D THIS!.

  13. Desiree Fisher
    June 27, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    How many homicides is that this week

  14. June 27, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    I would like to know if maybe the elderly gentleman had a hearing problem, and maybe his eyesight was bad, things go when your that age, 80 years old, someone yelling and screaming, banging on your door! If you can’t hear or see to well you could easily mistake all that commotion for an intruder! Probably thought someone was there to kill him, oh yeah they were! Over a marijuana warrant, WOW!

    • sarah mallory
      July 9, 2013 at 11:38 pm

      he did have a hearing problem and hes eyes were terrible the cops were very much in the wrong and murdered him.

  15. Wrong Way
    June 27, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Pulling a gun on the cops is always a bad idea, even if they’re in your house illegally, which in this situation, doesn’t appear to be the case. The best way to go about it is, “yes sir/ma’am,” “no sir/ma’am.” If there’s a problem, work it out afterwards when heads are cooler. Sorry to hear about an 80 year old man getting killed, but like Steve said, you’d think he would have known better.

  16. absobloodylutly
    June 27, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    I think justice WAS served. He knew better…he was not a child…the cops were in uniform…wtf was he thinking? A mind is a terrible thing to waste!

    • sandy
      June 27, 2013 at 11:48 pm

      No he was an old man, might as well of been a child, just because someone has a badge doesn’t give them the right to kill senior citizens who can’t hear or see, just trying to protect themselves from getting killed, and then getting killed. Isn’t it ironic, the people that protect us, have a license to kill us, then they investigate, it was pot, not worth anyone’s life, old or whatever. I would like to know just how much of an investigation was done, before they raided this house, there are ways of finding out who lives at an address. Can’t they investigate first, then they would know what they were getting into. Or did they already know? Really I wouldn’t walk into a house without first trying to find out who and what was in there, threat or no threat, blind or seeing, old or young, pot or heroin, this was this mans home, he probably only had the time to think that his home was being invaded and acted accordingly. Probably scared this old guy like he has never been scared in his life. I’m sure this old gentleman thought he was defending himself in his home, just like the Sheriff thought he was acting in self defense in someone else’s home. Why don’t we shoot first, and ask questions later! This is very sad! And I hope it will be investigated, and if this was the case it will be addressed! I’m pretty sure they weren’t dealing with an 80 year old, pot smoking, cop killer, where do we draw the line! To late for Ooops, sorry didn’t mean to scare you, and then kill you, didn’t know you couldn’t hear or see, my bad!!!! Justice will never be served, they do it, because some, not all Deputies have no respect or feelings for other people, or their property, and pretty much do what ever they want, and they get away with it! Won’t take the extra time to do the investigation, to much work, and really don’t think about or care if someone gets hurt or killed! Give them a little power and it goes straight to their heads! What’s really scary is the department knows who these Deputies are that have no respect for our citizens, and still allow these power hungry, trigger happy, disrespectful men and women of the law to push around, injure and kill innocent people who just want to enjoy the little time they have on this earth! It’s not a perfect world but come on, can’t you do a little better than this? Picking on the old, blind and deaf! Is it a crime to be old, or have hearing and seeing difficulties, and protect what’s yours.

      • june28
        June 28, 2013 at 8:32 am

        Officers see and know about what is happening in the community, and in there eyes they have a job to do, and while doing it they also have to protect themselves. Who pointed the gun first? They don’t go shooting people for the fun of it. This guy should of never pointed the gun, let alone at an officer. Who’s next?? Do you really what to take a chance and point a gun? He may be old or hard of hearing, but he wasn’t acting like it when he decided to do what he did. There is crazy people in this world!
        Watch that movie End of Watch. It made someone I know want to be an officer.

        • June 28, 2013 at 1:18 pm

          Well we are talking about an 80 year old man, who probably wasn’t all that together in the first place….they didn’t have to use lethal force, I have worked with the Deputies in this valley I know how they operate, just like with everything else there are good ones and there are bad ones, and I have worked with both. I can see why everyone thinks when a cop feels threatened they need to do what ever they have to for their own safety, I know of a few deputies that wouldn’t of let it go down like that, because they care and they put their lives on the line every day, just like they all do, only difference is they do really care! When they go into this profession they know the dangers TO PROTECT AND SERVE not kill our elderly they knew what the job was when they took it, come on get real!

          • AVGirl
            June 28, 2013 at 7:01 pm

            Nowhere in the article does it say he was deaf or blind or that his mental capacity had diminished.

            Following that train of thought, if someone is disabled, should we have a different set of rules for them? The only time that MIGHT come into play is mental illness which renders the person incapable of rational thought. But that is usually decided by the court and most people are considered sane or stable unless proven otherwise.

    • Deborah Dugger
      July 10, 2013 at 7:46 pm

      How can justice be served if he was not even aware of who you were breaking into his house..Amnes6tty international calls this ‘death of an an inconvenient person a murder… these types of murder are symptoms of a police force that descrimiates before serving a warrant…symptoms of a failing social structure..where police arbitrarily “decide who has the right to ‘due process..and selectively descriminates on what information is shared to obtain warrants.. We have due process protections’under the Law”…This incident is a breakdown of due process because the police has become a repressive force culpable of murder by selectively ignoring due process…and breaking into peoples homes and agressively not pursueing peaceful means to obtain..entry and preserving “due process…Let’s just forget people hae rights because you as a repressive fore wants to forget this person had rights to have the warrnt served..on him Not shoot him then claim he should have known…you were the police…I am not sure you are capable of understanding theconcept that this mans rights were violated….

  17. Landshark
    June 27, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    I never realized how dangerous 80 year old pot smokers were…wonder how many shots he got off before deputies riddle him with bullets…

  18. Johnny Trece
    June 27, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    This senior citizen probably had a death wish and took the opportunity for him to have the Deputies engage fire upon him. His opportunity to die finally came.

    • dee
      June 27, 2013 at 7:53 pm

      really do u have any idea he had every right to pull a gun on any one who inters a home [removed] you

      • justbeingreal
        June 28, 2013 at 8:36 am

        Im with you, the elderly man was probably startled and thinking he was getting robbed. The police should have used a non deadly method as Im sure they researched the home and knew that there was an elderly person residing there. Maybe he had a medical need for the marijuana?

      • AVGirl
        June 28, 2013 at 7:03 pm

        No you are wrong, you do not have the right to point a gun at anyone.

        • Deborah Dugger
          July 10, 2013 at 12:10 am

          Talk to the NRA on that one..This man thought this was a home invasion he was not a criminal “kIngPin” He NEVER got a ticket of any kind with his ‘security clearance”..Good going Sheriff..You shot an elderly man that worked until he couldn’t see anymore that worked his whole life until the ageof 74..working for aerospace…in an aerospace city where…nearly every retired person out there has worked for this company…EvERYBODY KNOWS HIM! He was the ‘OLD GUY THAT WAS NEARLY BLIND THAT CAME TO WORK WHERE ALL THREE SHIFTS SAW HIM TRYING TO DO HIS BEST…with..a security clearance…SMART!!!!!!!!

      • Johnny Trece
        June 28, 2013 at 10:10 pm

        Deputies have to loudly identify themselves before entering, letting anyone inside know that they are breaching. Therefore, pointing a gun at these deputies would be a bad idea, unless you want to die. Deputies like to practice their kill shots, or maybe they are bad at aiming.

        • Deborah Dugger
          July 10, 2013 at 12:13 am

          Your explanations are not GOOD ENOUGH…

    • June 29, 2013 at 12:05 am

      @ Johnny that is just wrong on so many levels. To anyone reading this I would just like to say that I am amaazed at the strong opinons regarding this shooting. Is it because he was 80 years old? Bottom line is ‘None of have ALL the facts” Who was the warrant for? Did they knock and get now answer? Did this senior citizen have dementia, failing senses? I could spin this story and say the cops were wrong or I could say what the hell was an 80 year old doing with a loaded gun pointing it at law enforcement. Did he have a registered gun? Before anyone JUDGES either way the facts need to be ALL known. This 80 year old man could have been sharp as a tack or altered and confused as many are due to many meds. Where was this 80 year olds family? Was he stable enough to be left alone? See I could keep throwing more and more out there. As a medical professional married to a Detentions officer We seek all the facts FIRST and ask MANY questions BEFORE making statements based on what little the papers say.

      • Deborah Dugger
        July 10, 2013 at 12:12 am

        Get used to it this is not going away you may want to minimize this…Most people that are going to hear this are not going to minimize THIS..This needs to be aired..AND NOT GO AWAY!

      • Deborah Dugger
        July 10, 2013 at 12:28 am

        This man didn’t deserve this.Any person in their right mind would have looked at this mans immaculate record and would have said restraint was justified..Any Policeman worth his salt would have looked at this mans record and said…’Take It Easy’..This man is old,got a squeeky clean record..Let’s not go in Charging like ‘ASSAULT TEAMS ‘ …Let’s use restraint”..ANY POLICE AGENCY WITH A MIND FOR CIVIL JUSTICE WOULD HAVE USED RESTRAINT..This Police action was ‘over the top”..Assaulting a 84 year old man with an impeccable record…and besmearching his name all in the name of making a marijuana bust…Get a grip…and quit trying to dirty this mans reputation..He was visually impaired and you charged his home…like he was a drug kingpin…He was a man that was able to mindfully work until his vision was gone…at theage of74…better than most of us..by the way..He deserved better than,,this.SHAME on those that are proud to hae shot him…

    • Deanna Mallory
      October 16, 2013 at 4:12 pm

      your cruel my grandpa didnt have a death wish he wasnt a drugie or a bad man if anything he protected and served for your country [removed]

  19. Palmdale_Steve
    June 27, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Yikes…80 years old and pulling a gun on Deputies, figured someone that old woulda shoulda coulda known better.

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