Readers Speak Out! (But read this first…)

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  117 comments for “Readers Speak Out! (But read this first…)

  1. William
    July 15, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    Consider this.

    Zimmerman was a lousy neighborhood watch person. Here’s why.

    There were dozens of burglaries in a gated community and, as he said, “…they always get away”. A doberman would have been a better neighborhood watch commander.

    The one ‘suspect’ who was doing nothing wrong, he ‘caught’, ‘shot’ and ‘killed’.

    And, the stupid juror, Cooper, would have him watch her neighborhood. Dear God in Heaven. What is going on in Florida?

    • You can ask....
      July 16, 2013 at 11:42 pm

      As someone on the “right” side of the issue William, we find ourselves meeting on the other side of the circle. As I stated in another post, I am a fairly conservative Republican, but this trial has got me pretty ticked off. You may not like Trayvon Martin. You don’t have to like him. In fact, most people black and white wouldn’t have liked to hang out with him. You may think he was a thug high on weed (facts not really in evidence, and not really applicable). You may never have wanted him for a neighbor! He may have had gold teeth on. He may have had a *gasp* hoodie on and saggy pants. However, and it all hinges on this, he was DOING NOTHING WRONG. Unless he was trying to push Skittles and iced tea on a diabetic, he was doing nothing wrong. Let’s look at it this way. If some guy starts following me down the street, I would very likely cause a confrontation with George Zimmerman or whoever his stand-in is in this situation. If I felt the guy was dangerous, I would have made sure that I got a lick or two in. I may very well have been shot and killed, and……whoever shot me would go to jail because I’m white. Heaven help the poor guy following me if he were black!! While I personally thought the charge of 2nd Degree Murder was a little extreme, voluntary manslaughter totally fits the bill. Forget about black or white for just a minute (as hard as it is), but shouldn’t everybody in America, black, white, Asian, Latino, all feel safe to walk the streets with a bag of Skittles and an Iced tea? Let’s make Trayvon Martin into “Trayvonette” Martin, 17 year old girl. Some creep starts following her, she confronts him, she’s dead. Zimmerman goes down for 2nd degree murder, no sweat. Trayvon Martin went down because he was a “scary” young black male. THIS SHOOTING SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED, BECAUSE GEORGE ZIMMERMAN SET A CHAIN OF EVENTS IN PLACE THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE OCCURRED. As a somewhat Libertarian Republican, I think that people should be free to walk down the street and feel safe while doing it. George Zimmerman should have been charged with some crime because his actions resulted in the untimely and unwarranted death of a young man. End of story. His injuries just prove that he was getting the worst end of the beating that he could have totally avoided. Stand your ground. What a crock! I point a gun at you, you run at me to try to take that gun and you hit my arm. Now! I’ve been attacked! I can shoot you. I stood my ground. Pathetic. One young man dead, another young man’s life ruined. Sergio’s right. Nobody won.

  2. RIPjuju
    July 15, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    I heard that a celebraty, lol, spent over $200,000 on their baby shower? While big fans in need keep spending there money to help them make them who they are. This is what is really crazy. They can afford to hire some people spending that kind of money..

  3. Franco
    July 15, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Where’s all the local outrage over the Zimmerman acquittal? NO JUSTICE! I hope the Feds nail him for violating Trayvon’s constitutional rights, just like they did with those LA cops that beat Rodney King. There’s no justice for us people of color in this country.

    • James P. Biddle
      July 15, 2013 at 12:27 pm

      The verdict was correct (under Florida law). If this had been in CA (or just about any other state) he would have been convicted and would have been sent to prison. Under Florida law, what he did was legal. End of story.
      Screw the r ace card or any other BS excuse for civil disobedience (looting, etc.)

      If you don’t like the verdict, go to Florida and protest and encourage them to change their laws.

    • July 15, 2013 at 12:44 pm

      Hey Franco- The jury has spoken. And you too have spoken, playing the race card when it has nothing to do with the case. Where do you get your news…The View?

      • William
        July 15, 2013 at 12:57 pm

        When Zimmerman told the 911 operator “These ‘expletive’ punks always get away”. Who was he talking about, Otto? There were multiple burglaries by black males previously and Zimmerman didn’t say “Those…”. He said “These…” which, if you understand English, included Trayvon with the other black male burglers because he was black as Zimmerman said later in the call.

        THAT’S RACIAL PROFILING. Trayvon was doing nothing wrong and was where he was supposed to be that night. In fact, Zimmerman was acting ‘suspiciouly’, following Trayvon, getting out of his car and following him in the rain at night. But, Zimmerman called Trayvon a ‘suspect’. Really??

        Where do you get your news, Otto, Fox, Daily Caller, Limbaugh, etc.?

        • Mark
          July 15, 2013 at 1:18 pm

          So you like others are making an assumption.The FBI investigated it a year and a half ago and in their report said they didnt feel this was race good luck with a civil suit. Even if he was profiling, not agianst the law. a jury decides on did he break the law. People are basing the guilt or innocents on emotions not facts and laws. And by the way William, Fox news has more viewers than the other 3 put together. so you can have your MSNBC and CNN or whatever you chose to watch.

          • William
            July 15, 2013 at 1:42 pm

            Yes. Fox misinforms millions if that’s what you like.

            Surveys have shown that Fox News viewers are some of the most mis- and uninformed of all the tv news outlet’s viewers.

            So, you say ‘racial profiling’ by Zimmerman is not against the law in the same comment that you say this isn’t about ‘race’.

            You must be allergic to logic. It’s common on the right and with Fox viewers. McDonald’s has way more customers than Spagos or the French Laundry, but you think ratings count more than accurate news reporting and intelligent commentary. I don’t watch programs because of their ratings. I’ve never watched 2 1/2 Men, for example.

          • Jason
            July 15, 2013 at 9:21 pm

            William you talk about Fox misinforming millions yet it was MSNBC thats was caught editing the Zimmerman 911 call to make Zimmerman look like a full out racist when that isnt the case. Is that accurate reporting and intelligent commentary? What about Chris Matthews branding 600k people on Facebook racist because of a page they liked? A page that happens to have a Cuban born ex soldier as an administrator and thousands of minoroties as members. I guess thats accurate reporting and intelligent commentary as well.

          • William
            July 15, 2013 at 11:21 pm

            Oh, Jason. What makes MSNBC’s edited tape of Zimmerman newsworthy is that it was a rare occurance.

            Fox News does misinformation constantly and it’s old news.

            But, keep watching Fox. Remember, they misinformed Mitt Romney and his campaign that they were gonna win. How did that work out?

          • Jason
            July 16, 2013 at 7:36 am

            Their entire coverage of this case was misinformation so no, its not a rare occurence. And I dont watch Fox or any other MSM because none of them tell the truth and they all have an agenda to push. Its sad when foreign news services tell more truth than domestic news agencies.

        • July 15, 2013 at 1:51 pm

          Yeah, right. I take it you were there at at the trial to take in all the evidence? I suppose you’re gonna tell me that O.J. was truly innocent. It is NOT illegal to follow someone or racially profile someone…and you’re really grasping at straws with your “these” vs “those….gimme a break. Justice done!

          • William
            July 15, 2013 at 2:10 pm

            Well, then, it was about RACE, wasn’t it if Zimmerman was racially profiling?

            Why is that so hard for you to grasp? So, now, racial profiling is NOT about race in your world?

            O.J. was as guilty as they come. So, now what are you gonna say to change the subject?

          • July 15, 2013 at 2:19 pm

            He wasn’t racially profiling. I don’t care even if he was. What I disagree with is smacking someone who is exercising his constitutional rights. You can’t punch somebody for walking behind you. Not to change the subject now, but did you see today’s The View? It was very hard hitting and informative.

          • William
            July 15, 2013 at 2:57 pm

            @Otto. How was it not racial profiling if he called Trayvon a suspect and after dozens of burglaries by black males. He wasn’t gonna let ‘this one’ get away.

            It’s likely that Zimmerman was ‘punishing’ Trayvon for the ones that got away, y’know, like you do when you have a bad day at work and come home and kick the dog. The dog had nothing to do with your bad day at work. Trayvon had nothing to do with those other burglaries. He was simply black. I’ve never heard if Zimmerman ever reported a white teenager walking through the complex at night. He must have seen at least one over the years.

            It will be interesting if there is a civil suit filed by Trayvon’s parents and Zimmerman will have to be deposed.

            I don’t watch The View, ever.

          • July 15, 2013 at 3:03 pm

            If there are dozens of burglaries by males of any specific race in any particular neighborhood, I say Profile Away! PS- I think the profiling was done by Trayvon against the “white cracker” population.

          • July 15, 2013 at 3:07 pm

            PS- Good call on The View.

          • William
            July 15, 2013 at 3:20 pm

            Was there a burglary or any other incident that night with a suspect that matched Trayvon’s description?

            Simply calling the cops because a black teenager was walking back to the townhome where he had every right to be is racial profiling and you can’t get that through your head.

            It’s like cops pulling over black men for ‘driving while black’ even when there is no other reason.

          • You can ask....
            July 16, 2013 at 11:48 pm

            Consider this. Let’s make Trayvon Martin “Trayvonette” Martin. Everything else goes down exactly the same: same clothes, same iced tea, same bag of Skittles. GZ kills Trayvonette. He would have gone to jail. Trayvon had the double misfortune of being both “black” and “male.” A deadly combination in Florida.

      • Franco
        July 15, 2013 at 1:53 pm

        @ Otto. I have seen your name (if that is your real name) on this site many times. I thought you were the kind of person who would be a bit more sympathetic towards minorities.

        • July 15, 2013 at 2:02 pm

          I am very sympathetic towards them…if they live their lives right. You may be surprised at my ethnicity.

          • William
            July 15, 2013 at 3:22 pm

            You’ve created a new notion for us, Otto -“condescending sympathy’.

            I’m sure people who you are being sympathetic towards could do without it much better.

    • Jason
      July 15, 2013 at 12:48 pm

      Franco were you outraged when OJ walked from a double murder?

      • Franco
        July 15, 2013 at 1:49 pm

        Of course, but O.J. got his just desserts in Nevada…KARMA.

    • SoSickofExcuses
      July 15, 2013 at 3:39 pm

      How about when Reginald Denney got beat up or did you forget that?
      If Zimmerman had been African American, there would be no discussion. Just another black on black murder. I am “outraged” that more people didn’t speak out in support of Zimmerman. How many of our homes have to be robbed everyday for neighbors to start looking out for eachother and supporting eachother instead of turning it into a racial demonstration. It’s a bummer that so many of the criminals are African American. I am sick of people using the poverty excuse and lack of employment. Most of the kids in the AV are dropouts and wouldn’t work if you offered to drive them everyday. People need to wake up. Things are not getting better and everyday more moms are sticking up for their criminal kids and thumbing their noses at respect for law and order.
      I am not going to make excuses for what color my skin is and I am tired of being looked at like I did something wrong to all the black people around me. I was not alive when so many of their (long past) relatives were enslaved. I was not one of the people who did that, so stop blaming me.

      • William
        July 15, 2013 at 4:21 pm

        I find black people generally friendly to me and I’m a white guy. So, I guess they, like most people, know instinctively who is their friend and who is their foe. In some situations, people’s survival depends on their instincts, especially a 17 year old black kid in today’s America.

        If they look at you like you’ve done something wrong, guess what? They probably sense your attitude before you say a word and it seems like they are correct.

        BTW. Trayvon knew instinctively that Zimmerman was up to no good that night. Zimmerman was acting suspiciously, wasn’t he?

        • SoSickofExcuses
          July 15, 2013 at 5:22 pm

          No, I don’t believe Zimmerman was acting suspiciously that night. He was keeping an eye on his neighborhood as a good NW Block Captain would. The tables were turned on him when he was attacked from behind. Lucky for him and unlucky for Treyvon, he had a gun. I believe that’s what happened and apparently so did the jury.
          Black people don’t look at me like I’ve done something wrong. Not sure where you got that notion. I treat Black people with the same respect they treat me. If they are not respectful…neither am I.
          I’m tired of hearing all the excuses about how they are kept down…blah blah. Talk about a dog and pony show, people need to open their eyes and see what is going on right under their noses and stop worrying so much about whose gonna scream about civil rights. This is out of control and this state is going broke supporting all of these people who will not work. The only money most of the same group generate has to do with prostitution, dog fighting, selling drugs and stolen property.

          • Genius
            July 15, 2013 at 5:36 pm

            @SoSickofExcuses, don’t forget fraud!!!! all kinds of fraud.

          • Mark
            July 16, 2013 at 4:55 am


          • July 16, 2013 at 11:55 am

            we will never know what really happened that night because there are 2 sides to every story and when one side is dead, then you are left with the word of the other side and OF COURSE GZ will have left out any parts of the story that make his side look bad. I think that if GZ had identified himself as a being with neighborhood watch and inquired as to what TM was doing in that neighborhood, then this would not have happened. TM would have no reason to attack GZ if that were the case, especially as ferociously as he did. By pure luck, nobody witnessed the initial confrontation and the actions and words that were exchanged and so I feel that GZ said or did something that we will just never know about. My gut tells me TM thought he was being chased by some crazy Mexican gangbanger and when he was cornered he fought hard because he felt GZ was there to do him harm.

    • ohso
      July 16, 2013 at 11:43 am

      Don’t here about this one do you?

      • PO'd Yank
        July 16, 2013 at 2:36 pm

        Nice, upstanding citizens….HAAAA

        • Genius
          July 16, 2013 at 4:23 pm

          Double Like! Some people like to make everything about race. I guess that’s what people do when they have an underbite or a weak argument.

          • William
            July 16, 2013 at 7:24 pm

            Like alcoholism, racism has a huge DENIAL component.

            And, you’re here to prove it.

          • Genius
            July 16, 2013 at 10:27 pm

            As are you Wilma.

  4. Mark
    July 15, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Dear Obama administration, please stop spending my tax dollars on the zimmerman/martin issue. If you and the media would realize that it worked its way thru the court system and a jury made a decision. time to move on.

    • William
      July 15, 2013 at 12:59 pm

      Spare us your wisdom. If Zimmerman were found guilty would you have insisted that he not appeal the verdict to save the state money? Would you have told Zimmerman to move on?

      • Mark
        July 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm

        It really dont matter to me william, just dont feel 1 murder should have this much B.S. with it. has Jesse or Al or Obama said a word about the 200 people killed (men women and children)in Chicago this year alone? NO, has the media covered it like this story NO because of the media and racist like jesse and company wont get the lime light for that.

  5. William
    July 11, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    I can’t imagine who will decompensate first in public, on live teevee or wherever, Rex Parris or Bill O’Reilly. If I had to bet, I wouldn’t, cause it seems to be a 50/50 chance.

    Neither can’t seem to alter their behavior other than to redouble their efforts on what has made them nutty in the first place.








    Try to imagine Parris in the coming months and/or years. Will he learn to behave or will he go way too far and end up in trouble or just keep doing the same old petty things and legal attacks?

    The hardest to imagine is Rex Parris becoming a thoughtful and considerate human being………………………y’know like say ……a Mayor James Ledford. Palmdale could have had an ordinary mayor all these years but, fortunately, we got Mayor Ledford who would still be outstanding even without the huge contrast between him and Parris. Parris only makes Mayor Ledford look even more extraordinary by comparison. Parris can’t contain his jealousy, envy, and pettiness when it comes to Mayor Ledford.

    In Lancaster council meetings, if someone has to say the word “Palmdale” and/or “Ledford”, it’s like a bad word that they have to whisper or just refer to it as the “neighbor to the south” or some such nonsense. Talk about childish, schoolyard antics, Lancaster has them mastered. Actually, those men act more like school girls in about the 5th grade and not even teenage boys.

    I suspect that Johnson has a bigger set than any of the men on the council including ol’ Rex.

  6. AVcares
    July 11, 2013 at 10:26 am

    I was surprised and a little sad that AVTIMES did not mention (at least I didn’t see anything) the passing of one of our former mayor’s of Lancaster, Arnie Rodio.

    The following was from the Antelope Valley Press, full obit. is online.

    Arnie Rodio Former Mayor of Lancaster, passed away July 5, 2013. Arnie was born on September 14, 1928

    Funeral services will be held celebrating his life at 10 a.m., Saturday, July 13, 2013, at the LDS Church, 3140 West Avenue K, across from the college.

  7. William
    July 8, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Check out Facebook’s ‘Get Parris Out Of Lancaster’ page. It has letters to the AV Press ‘Have You Say’ section regarding the ‘Tear down the Cactus Curtain/mediation’ rant by Parris.

    A lot of the letters tell Parris to keep his mouth shut and mind his own business regarding Palmdale. I’m sure he’ll hear about that.

    I say, if you want Parris to shut up, tie his hands behind his back.

    • sikntired
      July 8, 2013 at 8:38 pm

      Check out the front page of the AV Press.Rex is in Spain and ran with the bulls, also compared himself to Hemingway(looks).This was on his bucket list as well as killing the Palmdale power plant.
      Would not kid about something like this.

      • William
        July 8, 2013 at 10:57 pm

        I imagine there was more BS than usual in Pamplona that day.

  8. enjoyed the show
    July 8, 2013 at 4:53 am

    enjoyed the show on July 8, 2013 at 4:47 am

    Had a great fireworks display in Lancaster on the 4th from somewhere around Ave J and 5th St. East area, Beautiful…about 2 hours…sat in our back yard and enjoyed the show for free…cops NOT doing their job as always. Even when you call they never come…so thanks for that LASD.
    I mean no one has to call, just roll down your windows and listen or look up and you could see where all the NONE safe and sane fireworks were at, but that would be to easy!! Thanks again for a job not done..:)

    • James P. Biddle
      July 8, 2013 at 9:48 am

      If you had listened to a police scanner (like I was) you would know that they were out in force. It’s not as easy as you think to root out all illegal fireworks. It’s time consuming. While they are citing someone they are out of service for a time.

      i can tell you that the sheriff’s deputies were on the go none-stop.

      • Rooney
        July 8, 2013 at 10:10 am

        They always are. The problem is we now have so many people up here who disregard the law and not enough cops. We listen to the scanner too and if there weren’t so many domestic violence calls, maybe they could have handled your call. Quit your whining. Write to Rex!

        • bigbangtown
          July 8, 2013 at 10:14 pm

          Don’t really think “enjoyed the show” was whining! Just stating a fact.. I for one also loved the free show…better than going to the fairgrounds or someplace like Simi valley, you see how that ended…

    • Lyle Moody
      July 9, 2013 at 9:24 pm

      That’s because the DOJ said that targeting illegal fireworks vs “Safe and Sane” fireworks, even though both are illegal in Lancaster is considered ‘profiling’ and ‘racist’ – Sorry about your luck. Should of called the DOJ instead. Happy belated 4th!

    • J Dionne
      July 12, 2013 at 12:05 am

      So because they were not able to respond YOUR call, they were not doing their job. My dad has a saying, Get your brain in gear before you put your mouth in motion. I doubt it occurred to you that they were so busy doing their job they were unable to get to YOUR call.

      • tiredoftheirways
        July 14, 2013 at 6:54 am

        @ J Dionne I agree with “enjoyed the show” I understand they were not responding to a lot of calls on the 4th..seems to be a pattern…maybe that’s why they were able to say they gave no fines out!!!My father had a saying also…get your head out of you a$$ before speaking about something you know nothing about :)

  9. take-care-of-each-other
    July 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Wishing EVERYONE a safe and Happy 4th of July….
    Have a burger/beer on me :) enjoy!!!
    Be careful out there!!!

  10. rome
    July 1, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    First of all, I would like to say that I am a proud transplant from the San Fernando Valley. I get very frustrated reading comments from posts on this site about section 8, and lazy welfare recipients, etcetera. Some comments seem to come from people who fund these programs directly.
    The common frustration seems to be with people not contributing to our American society and taking advantage of the system financially. I wish I could quote some of the comments that I’ve read, but that would be like echoing a coyote howl. No need.
    I would just like to state a few facts for these hard-working, tax-paying, freedom fighters. It is awful for someone to take advantage government programs designed to help the needy and unfortunate of this country. And while it may seem to most of you that section 8 beneficiaries and welfare recipients are milking this country dry, lets look at some of the other culprits.
    The following companies are based in the United States and are the beneficiaries of laws that allow corporations to do tax-free business in other countries and the military efforts that protect their interests overseas:
    General Electric reported 108 BILLION U.S. dollars in profits overseas,
    Apple 102 billion
    Pfizer 73 billion
    Microsoft 62 billion
    Merck 53 billion
    Citigroup 43 billion
    Google 30 billion
    Coca-Cola 27 billion
    Walmart 20 billion
    These nine companies are not only not paying taxes on huge amounts of profits, they practice in outsourcing jobs to countries that do not have labor laws and minimum wages. In addition, they affect military and legislative decisions to be in the best interests of their objectives; money. And they apply for, and receive other financial stimuli, assistance, and allotments.
    And while we live in a community where there is an undeniable shortage of job opportunities, we find it easier to blame the people with the least economic power with ‘milking’ the system. There is a huge lack of Humanity within the human population of the world today.

    • Letlow
      July 1, 2013 at 9:01 pm


    • Rebecca
      July 2, 2013 at 11:57 am

      I agree that there is a ton of theft, of many different kinds. The success of the American experiment depends largely on the individual’s willingness to do the right thing, based on what’s right for the country, the state, the community and ultimately, the family. Unfortunately, this kind of integrity has slowly eroded to near nonexistence, as the years have passed since the great depression & WWII. Most, (not all), of the citizenry were grateful for their country & the opportunities it offered. They felt responsible for being a part of making it work. Slowly, since the 60’s and greatly accelerated in the 80’s, we’ve become the “ME” society. This has been a disaster in more ways than I can chronicle, here. My direct answer to your statement about corporations not paying taxes is that I believe the fault lies in government. Most of our representatives are not only bought & paid for, resulting in laws that allow & promote this favoritism to the corporations but in the theft in government, itself. Our governments are now so big, so corrupt and waste SO much money that it’s just plain ghastly. I think if we were to look at the actual amount of tax payer money taken in by city councils, (specifically the LA City Council), higher level state and fed govt employees- THE REAL numbers, we would ALL be choking on our own gasps. While again, I agree that the big corps are taking advantage, WHO LETS THEM?? The buck stops with government. Additionally, many, (not all), unions have become very corrupt, demanding wages that drive corporations offshore. Taxes also drive corporations offshore. If you’re going to try to compete with cheap goods from China, you can’t pay a riveter $70.00 an hour + free healthcare, + a beefy pension. I suggest everyone here read the info at HJTA, (Howard Jarvis Tax Payers Association- who long ago gave us Prop 13), and Citizens Against Government Waste as well as other tax watch dog sites. I also believe that our schools teach the students that this is a terrible country; teaching only about it’s wrongs, thus making students want to disassociate themselves. They don’t feel any gratitude or community. Oh boy.. I could go on from here but I think I’ve at least made a few good points. By the way, I’m over 50 so I’ve seen a lot, over the years. I moved here to CA in 1965 and I can tell you that it’s nothing like it was. I’m not kidding when I tell you that nobody locked their doors back then. Another topic.. but, we used to be the 7th largest economy in THE WORLD. Where’s the money gone? I believe that most of it has been stolen and wasted by government. Don’t EVEN get me started on the CA educational system and who’s getting all the money there, while the quality of education is just flat out horrible. )-:

    • rome
      July 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm

      “You ask the wealthiest people, the millionaires and billionaires, to start paying their fair share of taxes. You end these outrageous corporate loopholes. Senator Conrad showed a picture of a building in the Cayman Islands where there are 18,000 corporations. They’re there in the Cayman Islands using a postal address in order to avoid paying their taxes. We’re losing about a hundred billion a year. You’ve got large corporations making billions, paying in some cases nothing in taxes. That’s the way you go to deficit reduction, not on the backs of people who are already hurting. So, Mr. President, we are in a very difficult moment in American history. We are in the process of losing the great middle class. We’re seeing more of our people living in poverty. We’re seeing savage attacks being waged against the elderly in terms of cuts in Social Security and Medicare, attacks against those who get sick in terms of going after Medicaid and Medicare. And I think what the American people are saying is enough is enough. This country, this great country, belongs to all of us. It cannot continue to be controlled by a handful of billionaires who apparently want it all. You know, I, for the love of me, I cannot understand why people who have billions of dollars are compulsively driven for more and how many people have got to die because they don’t go to a doctor because you want to avoid paying your taxes?

      Well, that’s not what America is about. That’s not what people fought and died to create.”
      Senator Bernie Sanders, on the Senate floor, June 27,2012

    • RIPjuju
      July 15, 2013 at 5:20 pm

      The most anyone can get is $2400.00 a year in food stamps, and $2400.00 a year in cash aid, but the cash aid stops after I think 48months.

      The blame usually gets put on the less fortunate, and we got these corporations/businesses making all this money. They should have to do more to help our less fortunate people with jobs!

  11. Wait for it.....
    June 30, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    With all of this talk of fireworks in Palmdale, and Lancaster wanting Palmdale to stop selling them, guess what this casual observer thinks is going to happen. On the Fourth of July, some child in Lancaster is going to light off fireworks illegally. That child is going to get “hurt.” That child’s parents are going to seek legal representation to sue the City of Palmdale for selling fireworks. And then…..wait for it…..the legal counsel for the child’s parents will be a certain “civil justice” Lancaster attorney. Maybe I’m wrong, but….I don’t think so. Please note, no personal attacks, just speculation.

    • William
      June 30, 2013 at 11:07 pm

      I guessed that a week ago. It didn’t take much, though. That person is so transparently transparent.

      • Wait for it.....
        June 30, 2013 at 11:18 pm

        Even when he’s trying to cover stuff up, he’s transparent! I think his latest attempt at “tear down this wall” went over like a lead balloon and he’s trying to salvage some dignity out of it. As I’ve said before, Rex is like the kid on the playground who, minutes before he gets there, everybody is playing well together. He shows up and ten minutes later, everybody’s fighting and he’s standing off to the side grinning. In my world, I call be it being mean-spirited and divisive. In his world, it’s called “drumming up business.”

        • William
          July 1, 2013 at 3:42 am

          I thought it was called ‘s*** disturber’. Even when he attempts something ‘good’ it’s suspect.

          There needs to be an intervention, sometimes called an election, to correct things.

          Let’s guess what the controversy will be after the 4th of July.

          • Fed Up!
            July 2, 2013 at 11:49 am

            Lot of good that would do, lancaster Baptist will just put him right back in there.

          • Wait for It....
            July 2, 2013 at 5:03 pm

            I think the shine is off the apple as far as Rex and Lancaster Baptist are concerned. His sponsorship of the OUTReach event at the Fair has kind of turned the LBC people off. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rex gets a challenge from the right next time around. Assuming he runs.

    • Uncle Tom
      July 1, 2013 at 5:48 pm

      Pretty sure you need to be 18 to purchase fireworks, and I’m also pretty sure its an ‘adult only’ usage with warnings all around. So to me that sounds like anybody’s kid who gets hurt, they should in fact be negligent in their parental/guardian duties. This makes even more sense if its not even a ‘safe and sane’ type of fireworks (the kind that shoot, explode, or burn super hot).

      But hey I’m just a responsible adult who doesn’t blame others for my mistakes.

    • AVGirl
      July 7, 2013 at 4:48 pm

      You generally don’t have standing when you commit an illegal act.

  12. Lancaster Citizen
    June 30, 2013 at 8:33 am

    As a older bicyclist, I love the fact the cities in the AV have tried to address unsafe biking conditions, but Lancaster, Quartz Hill and Palmdale should work together to be smarter in their approach. I would like to suggest a single street with a bike lane from the Palmdale foothills to Avenue D, or further. There is not one street (or combination of streets) with a bike lane which doesn’t narrow unsafely. It is not possible to do a 10, 20 or 30 mile ride, without putting your life in danger. Pick a street or combination of streets, and agree to put your resources there. Don’t waste the limited budget to add bike lanes to one block here or there with unsafe riding between the lanes.

  13. Nancy P
    June 29, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    Today someone told me that LASD is NOT doing anything to anyone regarding marijuana because a high city official is the owner of a “medical dispensary”. Is this true or just wishful thinking?

    • Uncle Tom
      July 1, 2013 at 5:50 pm

      Well, I don’t know if its wishful thinking, but it’s definitely not true. LASD is constantly busting grows, and when they can prove a ‘dispensary’ is breaking the law, they will shut them down too.

      • Nancy P
        July 2, 2013 at 4:48 pm

        Thank you for the response.

  14. June 29, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    POWERHOUSE FIRE, I drove by the area right before and after the POWERHOUSE FIRE and took pictures of Powerhouse # 1 . The fire started there and jumped quickly across the road. Why is Dept. of Water and Power not coming up with that the pumps they had in the shed over heated and started the fire ??? MONEY, that’s why.

  15. leroy webb
    June 26, 2013 at 8:48 am

    RACHAEL CASEY a 2006 Quartz Hill High graduate and now a student at Antelope Valley College is a RACIST, according to her very own words on Facebook. Rachael Casey posted a comment saying she was RACIST because EVERY black person she meets fits the stereotype like a glove. She went on to describe that stereotype in words that I will get banned for if I list here.When I responded to Rachael Casey commenting that I would let everyone at AVC know she was a self proclaimed racist, her fiance Bvvictor M. Mendes said he was reporting me to authorities for bulleying Rachael Casey when she was exercising her 1st Amendment right of freedom of speech. Then Racheael Casey and her fiance Bvvictor M. Mendes deleted their posts from the public Facebook page. But I had already screengrabbed Rachael Casey’s post in order to spread the word that Rachael Casey is an admitted racist. Here is the post where Rachael Casey says she is RACIST because EVERY black person she meets is…

    I am not trying to bulley or harass Rachael Casey. I just want everyone to know what she wrote on a public Facebook page for millions to see and then removed when I said I would tell her classmates at AVC. BTW, she made the post on AV Times Facebook page in response to an article about two presumably black men being murdered in Lancaster over the weekend.

    • Jay
      June 29, 2013 at 8:33 am

      SHe graduated in 2006 and is still at AVC?? It shows how smart she is

  16. seriously
    June 25, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    The city of LA just passed a plastic bag ban the other day. I believe LA County did this a while back as well ( in unincorporated county areas. Is it just me or does this seem like a scam wrapped up in a cloak of environmental consciousness? LA City cited a study that said 12 billion plastic grocery bags are used each year in California. It was also stated that a plastic grocery bag cost a penny to make. Likewise a reusable “green bag” costs about ten cents to make and are sold at stores for one to three dollars. You will be able to purchase paper bags for a minimum of five cents a bag. Paper bags cost about half that to produce.Also stores already build that plastic bag cost into the price of goods you already buy. Does anyone else see the fact that this is a huge moneymaker for the stores? If it was really about the environment I think it would have been handled a lot differently….Just saying….

    • givemeabreak
      June 26, 2013 at 5:53 pm

      Years ago they said the whole point of using plastic bags was to
      SAVE THE TREES??….now they don’t want the plastic bags used, but it’s ok to buy the paper bags..????
      Maybe we should all bring in our pillowcases instead :):)

  17. James Sosa
    June 25, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    I think Rex is doing a good job !

  18. Yup
    June 22, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Does anybody know anything about the huge accident near the mall last night? A car was flipped over. It looked like the driver of a gray Mercedes went into the opposite lane. The other car was flipped on its side. The helicopter was also out searching. I’m thinking it was a hit and run.

    • sikntired
      June 22, 2013 at 12:51 pm

      Sheriff chasing Camaro,it crashed with a car and truck at 10th st w and Rancho Vista and the driver fled the scene.

      • Yup
        June 22, 2013 at 1:08 pm

        Thanks for the info. Do you know if they caught The guy? I wonder why there is t in article. It looked a pretty huge deal.

        • sikntired
          June 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm

          Short article in the AVPress, didn’t sound like they caught anyone, though they closed off area around the mall.

  19. J. Ripper
    June 22, 2013 at 6:19 am

    I am by NO means a fan of Rex. But I have to say, I went to the BLVD for the Farmer’s Market this past week, and it was nice and enjoyable. I don’t think Thursdays on the Square in Palmdale come anywhere close to the atmosphere I experienced there, and to have that on a regular basis. That said, parking was indeed a complete bitch, we tried following the directional signs pointing to “public” parking only to find lots that were apparently all privately marked. “They” (Rex, the city, the developers in Rex’s pocket… whomever) did completely f*** up the parking and failed to plan adequately for that, especially for large-crowd events like the farmer’s market. I chuckled at all the empty mall-carts along the street, since those were a horrible idea from the beginning considering the climate we have here. But I repeat, the event itself, and being able to wander around the closed-off street but still having the restaurant/snack businesses open and seemingly busy enough, was nice. And just as importantly, something that I don’t think the AV had 10 years ago, or that Palmdale has at all.

    The architecture of the new buildings is modern and refreshingly different than all the cookie-cutter big box buildings you see everywhere else in the AV, among everything built in the last 20 years. Lancaster (Rex) has really done wonders to revitalize the street. Palmdale did what, spent public money 10 years ago to gift the ghetto strip-mall buildings along Palmdale Blvd with a new façade and semi-conforming signage… 10 years later it’s the same type of ghetto businesses, nothing even close to an enjoyable shopping/dining destination, and most of the ghetto businesses have changed hands/names enough times that the signage looks like crap, where it’s been ripped down and tacked over.

    All in all, I will hand this one to Rex, but say build a damn parking garage around the middle of the block, and put up signs pointing to it.

    • sikntired
      June 22, 2013 at 5:26 pm

      Jack, seriously, have you been to the mall, checked out restaurant row or the myriad of stores and restaurants at 10th and Rancho Vista? None visits Palmdale Blvd much, don’t need it.

    • Quigley
      June 22, 2013 at 9:34 pm

      Jack, Lancaster is so behind Palmdale for dining and shopping, the mall & 10th west are an example. It would be nice if Lancaster residents would shop & dine on Rex’s Blvd so Palmdale’s establishments wouldn’t be so damn crowded!

      • Love to Eat
        June 22, 2013 at 9:53 pm

        I would eat on the BLVD but the selection is not so good. To me anyway. Sorry

        • Angel
          June 24, 2013 at 8:57 pm

          I work on Lanc. BLVD and there is NO WHERE good to eat. Most of my coworkers go to fast food chains than anywhere here! They wanted to make it a walk around shopping and dining center of Lancaster and yet about a quarter of the businesses are stinking salons and barber shops. You have one brewery that food sucks, Bex who has horrible service and mediocre food. About 4 hispanic restaurants that aren’t great and a nice little theater with an overly priced store. We have 3-4 banquet places on the blvd but what really attracts people here on a daily basis? Nothing. And that is the problem. I will kudo the farmers market and the rare occasion there is an event down here. The potential is above the sky but nothing is done with it

          • Patricia Hayden
            June 24, 2013 at 10:37 pm

            The only attraction for me is Burns Pharmacy and Happy Tails pet groomers.

          • William
            June 24, 2013 at 11:30 pm

            You nailed it, Angel. Last Friday, I was in L-Town and drove down the BLVD to see if there was anything new.

            BeX was almost completely empty at 12:30 in the afternoon and the other restaurants weren’t much busier. How do they stay in business when they aren’t busy at the usual mealtimes?

            What I can never understand is all the cars and trucks parked in the median when there are hardly any pedestrians on the sidewalks and the businesses seem empty. What the heck is with that?

            Funny how little old 50s diner Katz N Jammers has better service than Bex. K N J is still great.

    • Apples and Oranges
      June 25, 2013 at 2:50 pm

      Comparing Lancaster Boulevard to the section of Palmdale Boulevard near 20th Street East is like comparing Avenue J near Sierra Highway to the Mall. If you’re looking for good shopping or fine dining, the Mall beats anything else in the AV. If you’re looking for a place to sit quietly and eat an ice cream cone, I guess the BLVD is better….if you’re into that sort of thing on a regular basis.

    • QHR
      June 25, 2013 at 4:51 pm

      I agree with you JRipper, it is a pleasant experience, especially during the summer with the concert series. It doesn’t feel near as generic as the rest of the AV.

      I actually have a sense of place on the BLVD, there is nowhere else in the AV like it.

      • William
        June 25, 2013 at 5:40 pm

        You have a ‘sense of place on the BLVD’?? Doesn’t your GPS work anywhere else?

        • sikntired
          June 25, 2013 at 6:07 pm

          LOL, William.

          • William
            June 25, 2013 at 6:41 pm

            You know me. I can’t let a silly comment go unresponded to.

  20. Turd Ferguson
    June 19, 2013 at 9:05 am

    You do not have to call someone an idiot by name to prove your point.You do not have to call someone an idiot by name to prove your point.All you have to do is point out their actions.All you have to do is point out their actions.Like spending $90,000.00 a month for LEAPS.Like spending $90,000.00 a month for LEAPS.For something that is worthless.For something that is worthless.$90,000.00 a month for 10 years.$90,000.00 a month for 10 years.That is $10,800,000.00.That is $10,800,000.00.Money that can be used for sherriffs.Money that can be used for sherriffs.We need more sherriffs.We need more sherriffs.More boots on the ground.More boots on the ground.No to LEAPS.No to LEAPS.

    • justsaying
      June 19, 2013 at 6:39 pm

      2 thumbs down…2 thumbs down…
      See… I proved my point and didn’t have to call you that name :)
      Just soooo easy to prove a point!!! :) :)

    • FedUp!
      June 20, 2013 at 6:36 pm

      Turd I could not totally agree more but please don’t repeat yourself! for the last two days that thing has been flying over my house and to boot it’s below the 1,000ft. level! if the thing was making some kind of impact to crime I would not mind it flying over, but it’s not that’s the point! It’s just not working working Parris, get rid of it!

  21. sjgranai
    June 18, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    When will there be time to write stories? You will be stuck on emails all day! Never heard such whining from adults in all my life!

  22. Letlow
    June 18, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    All hell has broken loose on the AV Times facebook under the inmate vs psychologist post. Perfect example of what happens when name calling is allowed and lawlessness prevails. I’m happen to follow the rules on this website if only to keep those facebook savages at bay. LOL!

  23. AV Town Crier
    June 18, 2013 at 10:19 am


    I think you are doing a disservice to you readers regarding comments made about public officials. It’s one thing if the comments are libelous or vulgar. But to ban a comment for merely calling a public official a moron or idiot seems to me, to be acceptable.

    If you ban comments like that, you will lose readers, like myself.

    I suspect after hearing King Rex name you on TWC-3 news, that he has threatened you with a lawsuit. He’s a bully like that. But he has no case. He’s a public figure.

    Please come clean with us. We’re your loyal followers. We’ll stand up for you.

    • June 18, 2013 at 11:04 am

      Thank you for your comment, but we are standing firm on our no name-calling policy. If it is unacceptable to call a fellow reader an idiot, moron, stupid, etc., then it should also be unacceptable to refer to a public figure in this manner.

      Residents, public figures and even suspected criminals are all part of our readership. We are simply attempting to apply our policies equally across the board and extend the same courtesies to ALL our readers.

      We cannot fully understand why it seems so important to you (and others who’ve contacted us privately regarding our stance on suspected criminals) to be able to refer to others using name-calling.

      This is a work in progress and we are open to suggestions from our reader. Please outline your suggestions here.

      To be clear, R. Rex Parris has not threatened us with a lawsuit or contacted us in any way.

      • AV Town Crier
        June 18, 2013 at 12:05 pm

        Thanks for clearing that up (re:Rex.)

      • BGF
        June 18, 2013 at 1:52 pm

        So you’re saying there is a difference between public officials & suspected criminals?

      • Otis
        July 1, 2013 at 9:06 am

        Traditionally, one of newspapers’ most important functions has been to provide voice-of-the-people pages for their readers so that folks can have open forums for discussions, debates, and for venting frustrations with public officials and other entities, institutions and people in their communities. Civility is important; but it’s just as important to allow folks to express themselves and speak their minds. After all, where and how else are they going do it?

        Btw, the Governor of Maine banned that state’s three leading newspapers from access to his office because he doesn’t like their “watch dog” journalism. But that’s not dissuading those editorial & news departments from doing their jobs, as their communities and readers expect and deserve, one iota.

      • Uncle Tom
        July 1, 2013 at 6:01 pm

        I believe what AVTimes is doing re: this matter is a great idea. I think it may overwhelm whoever is checking that email, but if it works the great.

        There is no reason we can’t have meaningful discussions here, including pointing out our dislike of certain politicians, without resorting to outright attacks and vulgarity. Simply state your opinion, and/or the facts if there are any, in a mature clear concise manner so we can all discuss the issue.

      • KOUI
        July 8, 2013 at 8:32 pm

        Yeah! I guess I can understand you wanting to clean up your site. Especially if it insults your sensibilities. Still, I have to say, it was the contentiousness of this site that attracted me to it in the first place.

  24. Jenny
    June 18, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Thank you AV Times for taking a stand against name calling and bullying on your forum. What a relief it will be to be able to participate in a discussion without the burden of filtering all the nastiness!

  25. Rachelle
    June 17, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    Does anybody know what was going on at Santa Fe Gun shop on Rancho Vista and Sierra about 6:30 this evening? A bunch of cops were there.

  26. Think Again
    June 17, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    I think the guidelines are pretty clear. It appears to me that you can say “City Councilmember ‘so and so’s’ view on XYZ topic is the most idiotic I have ever seen or heard and I can’t believe any dummy would ever agree.” However, saying that Councilmember ‘so and so’ is a total idiot and you are a stupid jerk for agreeing with him/her on that topic” will get your comment removed. I don’t think that’s too onerous. Also, it does indeed get wearisome reading comments along the line of, “you’re dumb,” “oh yeah? well your Mama’s dumber.” At least try to be a LITTLE creative…..

  27. The Anti-REX
    June 17, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    How are we supposed to voice our opinions that our mayor is an idiot without saying idiot?

    • AV Town Crier
      June 18, 2013 at 10:09 am

      You can’t call the idiot a idiot. Just say he’s common sense challenged. He’s compassionate challenged. He’s morally challenged.

      • Notagain
        June 18, 2013 at 11:44 am


    • NorthCounty
      June 24, 2013 at 1:56 am

      Invest in a thesaurus.

  28. sikntired
    June 17, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Off topic, but bad, bad accident northbound 14 at escondido, loved ones may be late getting home tonight.

  29. PD
    June 17, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    It is interesting that an online news publication would limit free speech and the public voicing their opinion on local officials. I am not condoning vulgar language, the release of personal information or false statements. That being said, when running for public office you accept that the public is going to judge your personal character. Heck, public officials use their character and personal attributes to increase the public’s likelihood of voting for them. Then we have a free, start-up news organization that the public is engaging in. This news organization then makes a blanket statement that they will not allow personal attacks towards public officials. This self-imposed rule is anti-democracy. When our news outlets limits the ability for the public to comment on officials they have elected there is great reason for concern.

    Is “The AV Times” not allowing the public to make attacks on publically elected officials because they differ from their own opinions?

    Is “The AV Times” not allowing the public to make attacks on publically elected officials because they do not have a full understanding of how an open public democracy works and operates?

    Is “The AV Times” not allowing the public to make attacks on publically elected officials because “The AV Times” is receiving benefits from the affected publically elected officials?

    It is probably a combination of all three that is causing them to make such an anti-democratic, anti-free speech statement. Way to take to the voice of your readers and mute it. That is a great way to keep/grow your following.

    Bachelors in Political Science
    Masters in Political Science w/emphasis in Public Relations

    • June 17, 2013 at 5:19 pm

      Thank you for your honest comment. By your statements and questions, it appears you have misunderstood our rule, which is simple: No PERSONAL attacks on ANYONE. It erodes a discussion.

      If your comment calls someone a fool, idiot, moron, crook, etc., then it’s pretty safe to say that your comment contains a personal attack. It will be removed, whether it is directed at another commenter or an elected public official.

      You are free to speak out against any publicly elected official, if you follow this very simple directive.

      • PD
        June 17, 2013 at 6:14 pm

        Thank you for clearing that up. The vague use of the verbiage “personal attack” is a blanket statement which can be construed to mean hundreds of things. When speaking to the public in an honest fashion it would be beneficial to more direct as you were in the response to me.

        Thank you for taking the time to listen to your followers, even a disgruntled one such as myself.

        • AS
          June 18, 2013 at 6:13 am

          It was pretty direct.

      • Please
        June 18, 2013 at 8:25 pm

        So blanket statements about “Liberals are communists who just want to nanny everyone” and “Conservatives are bigots who wouldn’t know science if it bit them in the backside” are also unacceptable? I see an awful lot of that around these parts.

        • PD
          June 19, 2013 at 12:16 pm

          It seems as though this would be allowed under the rule. It is not attacking an individual person but more a political thought as a whole.

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