UPDATED: Man shot to death by deputies in Palmdale

Javier Salvador Ortiz, a 31-year-old resident of San Fernando, was shot and killed by Palmdale deputies in the 38500 Block of Larkin Avenue on Friday, Aug. 3. Authorities said Ortiz had grabbed a deputy’s gun and was firing the gun when he was shot. Photo by LUIS MEZA

PALMDALE – A 31-year-old Hispanic man was shot and killed after grabbing and shooting a deputy’s gun during a violent altercation with deputies, authorities said.

The incident happened around 6 p.m., Friday (Aug. 3) in the 38500 Block of Larkin Avenue in Palmdale, according to Sheriff’s Homicide Lieutenant Mike Rosson.

Rosson said deputies had been trying to apprehend the man because he was suspected of assaulting a couple moments earlier on 5th street east near Avenue Q-3.

The man was wanted for assaulting an off-duty police officer and his wife on 5th street east, authorities said. Photo by LUIS MEZA.

“The male victim and the female victim were struck with a metal-type object,” Rosson said.

Rosson said the male victim, an off-duty police officer, flagged down a passing sheriff’s patrol car, explained what happened, and gave a description of the suspect.

Deputies found the suspect on Larkin Avenue near Avenue Q-3 a short time later, Rosson said.

“They saw the suspect standing in the middle of the street,” Rosson said. “The deputies approached the suspect in their car.”

The man ran away, jumped a fence into the backyard of a vacant home, and fought with deputies when cornered, Rosson said.

Deputy-involved shooting location.

Deputy-involved shooting location.

“At some point in time, the deputy’s weapon was taken out of his holster by the suspect,” Rosson said. “The suspect was able to shoot two to three rounds with the deputy’s gun. Deputies returned fire and a deputy-involved shooting occurred.”

The man was shot multiple times in the upper torso, and he was pronounced dead at the scene, Rosson said.

No deputies were struck by the gunfire.

“However, one got himself a broken hand in the altercation,” Rosson added.

The man and woman, allegedly assaulted by the suspect, were treated at a local hospital and released, Rosson said.

UPDATED 8/4/12 at 11:30 a.m. – The man shot dead by deputies has been identified as Javier Salvador Ortiz, a 31-year-old resident of San Fernando, according to the Los Angeles Coroners office.

UPDATED 8/4/12 at 11:30 p.m. – The Sheriff’s Headquarters Bureau has released a press report with new details on the deputy-involved shooting. Read the entire press release below:

Sheriff’s Homicide Bureau detectives are continuing their investigation into the circumstances surrounding a deputy-involved shooting that occurred in the 38500 block of Larkin Avenue, Palmdale.

Palmdale Station deputies responded to a call of a male acting violently, family members reported that the male relative was possibly under the influence of drugs. However, he left the location prior to the deputies’ arrival.

Deputies began searching the area for this individual. While deputies were patrolling the area, they were flagged down by an off-duty Los Angeles Police Department officer who told them that he and his fiance had just been assaulted by a male, with a metal pipe. The suspect matched the description of the person the deputies were searching for.

Two deputies saw a man matching the description of the suspect, standing in the middle of the street in the 38500 block of Larkin Avenue. When the suspect saw the deputies, he fled into the rear yard of a residence. The deputies followed the suspect into the rear yard.

The suspect attempted to scale a high block wall, but deputies were able to pull the suspect down from the wall and a physical altercation ensued.

During the fight the suspect gained control of one of the deputy’s duty weapon, and pointed it at him. The deputy quickly pushed the suspect’s hands upward and at that moment the suspect fired at least one shot into the air.

The deputy drew his back-up weapon and fired multiple rounds at the suspect. Simultaneously, the second deputy saw the suspect with a gun and fired multiple shots at the suspect.

The suspect was struck multiple times in the upper torso; he collapsed and dropped the deputy’s duty weapon. Paramedics pronounced the suspect dead at the scene.

One deputy sustained a broken hand during the altercation and was treated at a local hospital. The assault victims were also treated and released from a local hospital.

No deputies or civilians were struck by the suspect’s gunfire.

  194 comments for “UPDATED: Man shot to death by deputies in Palmdale

  1. Negative Nancy (removed)
    August 12, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Oh! and the sheriff’s out here suck too. What moronic deputy let his gun
    “just SLIP away”……Common criminals are just that “CRIMINAL’ you are not a outstanding citizen pulling such crap!!!

  2. High desert Jim
    August 12, 2012 at 11:12 am

    God prevented the devil in this perpetrator from killing a police officer.
    Pray the the dead man’s soul. Pray that the Sheriff’s deputy learned the lesson of protecting his weapon.
    I also hope that they do not have pain or suffering for using the deadly force neede to stop this law breaker. Thank God that he did not also kill the couple when he hit them with the steel pipe.
    Arm yourselves good citizens of the AV. There are not enough deputies to protect you from the imported horde of lawless invaders.

  3. G.W.BUSH
    August 7, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Well here I go again,Mr.G.W.BUSH has something to say.If you don’t have something positive too say,you need too SHUT UP,beacuse people don’t play about their love ones,especillay thier dead!See something is going to pop off in this Antelope Vally,and a lot of innocent people are going to get hurt,because people hide behind the computer,and says some of the most harsh sh!t in the world! And not only that,you have the nerve too think that it’s ok! Be smart people, everything that is said,or done does call for a comment,or a responds,let some things go.People like to use the saying of “sticks,and stones may break your bone but words will never hurt”! Well i’m here to call it a lie,because life,and death is in the power of the tongue! So becareful on what you say,because it can,and will come back to haunt you!!!

    • really
      August 7, 2012 at 5:28 pm

      Which side are you condemning? The side that is running off at the mouth and saying cops killed the guy for no reason? Or the side that says his actions led to his death and there should be no loss of sleep over it? As to your second point about this leading to violence, anyone who would resort to violence over a lack of sympathy towards a dead loved one is probably the same type of person who makes poor choices and causes his/her own death. Violence is a poor choice however there are plenty of people left in this valley that have the means to defend themselves against the violence you speak of….

      • Letlow
        August 7, 2012 at 7:37 pm

        There’s a difference between a lack of sympathy and downright callousness.

        When people make comments saying the man should rot in hell, I think that crosses the line. Where has the compassion gone in this Antelope Valley?

        This man made some poor decisions that led to his death, yes. But why compound his family’s grief by saying he should rot in hell? Is that really necessary?

        He has paid for his mistakes. Why punish his family even more with mean spirited comments? What is it about this website that turns people into cold-hearted savages????

        • G.W.BUSH
          August 7, 2012 at 7:39 pm

          I agree P-Cola.

      • G.W.BUSH
        August 7, 2012 at 7:37 pm

        You talk about poor choices,we live in a time where people in all walks of life make poor decision everyday,and I know that you know that because, you read these stories on this site all the time! Dude, people take disrespecting there love ones serious!when death comes,emotion follows,and within emotion, poor choices take place,and guess what, it all tran-spired behind being disrespectful! Man,you talk like you are ready for war ,by stated that people have stuff to defend them selves with.I wouldn’t dout that one bit,but just because you have a few guns,and a couple of bullets does not mean that you are ready for war!

        • really
          August 7, 2012 at 7:55 pm

          First off I dont advocate violence, I simply stated there are many people in this valley who are prepared to defend themselves… If you know the history of this valley you would understand my comment. This used to be a rural community full of people who were self reliant. Although many have moved out of the area there are still many who can and will defend themselves…. As to people making comments about someones family member, saying he will rot in hell assumes a lot. God is the final judge and only he knows this guys fate… that being said there is no sympathy from me…

  4. vodkadrinker
    August 6, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    This guy seemed to be everybody’s cousin…..If it were my cousin, I’d lay low and not admit being associated with him. How did me, my friends, and my family get through life without getting shot by the cops???…by showing them respect and doing what we were told. Good job LASD!!!!

  5. yesi
    August 6, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    R.I.P. Javier, it pains me to see my friend (his sister) in such pain. No family deserves this. & for all of you ignorant people making unessesary rude commets about a man or situation you have no TRUE knowledge about. Please just keep them to yourselfs. Show some respect for the life lost. I bet if he was any your family members you would appreciate the same respect.

    • T-Bone
      August 6, 2012 at 4:46 pm

      If my family member did this and was shot, I would expect these comments not whine about them! Get a clue. It’s not like he was an innocent stand byer. He did the crime, suck it up!

      • Gabriela
        August 6, 2012 at 6:02 pm

        I guess you saw the whole thing and new him right??

        • Concered
          August 7, 2012 at 6:23 am

          Don’t need to Gab. It’s amazing how you all think that the LASD would make up a story. Do you realize how many agencies are going to investigate this? One of the first things they will do is check his hand for gun shot residue. That will be the “smoking gun”, no pun intended, that he had the cops gun.

          • Gabriela
            August 7, 2012 at 10:15 am

            I hope they do and the case here is that all of the people that are posting are making comments that hurt. I know he wasnt perfect but i could assure you he was not a criminal we’re all in shock after reading what happend i don’t know what was in he’s head if he did what is being said he did, all i could tell you he was a relly sweet guy. WE all love him and like i said we could assure you he was a good guy but you know we all have our momments and unfortunely for him he lost his.

        • Chance
          August 25, 2012 at 1:36 am

          I know the cop.. He wouldn’t have killed him just to do it. He is a loving husband and dad. Obviously this guy was up to no good of his own family called the police on him. Than for him to assault a couple… Not only that but his intentions were to kill the officer this was clearly self defense.

          • lupita
            September 17, 2012 at 1:47 pm

            Javier was a loving fater too. Officers are trained and something like this is unnecessary can you believe that the victim got the gun personally i don’t believe this. I don’t feel protected and safe by cops. I think cops should be retrained and don’t shoot to kill, there are so many alternatives like tazers or how about arresting the victim. he wasn’t armed and the story about about him grabbing the weapon is bull shit, this is clearly not self defense. this is another story of a cop using his force and power to KILL!!

  6. Hmm
    August 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Such an out pouring of support for this guy. He must have been a saint with no rep sheet, oh I would be willing to bet that he has had some run-ins with the law. In these cases its always the sheriffs fault and the perpetrator bears no fault for the problems that have been caused by their actions. The family needs to wake up and realize that his actions caused the shooting. One family member said he hates cop right now, let’s see who they call if they need help in the future!

    • Hmm
      August 6, 2012 at 2:12 pm

      I’m tired of all the bottom feeders out there blaming others for what they cause!

  7. Concered
    August 6, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    One less piece of crap tug out there!!

    • August 6, 2012 at 10:29 pm


      • DerpDerpDerp
        August 7, 2012 at 12:12 am

        The correct tactic in the force continuum happened. They tried to apprehend him by hand after resisting, he grabbed an officers gun, when a suspect is armed with a handgun the force continuum says you shoot the person with the gun before he can shoot anyone.

        You do not pepper spray or taze an armed individual.

      • Concered
        August 7, 2012 at 6:19 am

        Rose are you of sound mind? He had a GUN that he took off a cop. Maybe they, the cops, should have asked him to please give them back the gun, in their inside, nice voice. Maybe that would have worked. Guess law enforcement across the country should re-write their hand books and policies and procedures. Shame on the LASD!! The guy had the gun, and God forbid they shot him!!

  8. Concered
    August 6, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Guy acts like a fool, and he get’s what he deserves. Three to the chest! Way to go LASD! Save us taxpayers the expense of a trial and paying for the low life to sit in jail on our dime!!

  9. T-Bone
    August 6, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Nice work LASD! Only the Strong Survive!

  10. ElChapoGuzman
    August 6, 2012 at 12:26 am

    I’m Guessing The LASD wants the same treatment the officers in Mexico Got…Now wouldn’t that put a smile on my face…

    • Ofcr. Carlos
      August 6, 2012 at 5:05 pm

      Hey, esse. Shouldn’t you be in Oxnard picking strawberries or lettuce?
      You sound very anti law enforcement.

      • Quigley
        August 6, 2012 at 10:10 pm

        Wholly crap Ofcr. Carlos….

    • Tommy
      August 6, 2012 at 10:07 pm

      Hey Elchapo Guzman, F you

  11. August 5, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    You guys are so ignorant how could you guys talk about him like that he was such a nice guy!i didnt know him that good but you could tell and the times i got to talk to him proved it!and you giys should even be opening your mouth if you guys dont know [removed]!so stfu

  12. a.u
    August 5, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    no one is saying he did the right thing…no one is saying is not true or that it is! simply have respect for the family. when your son was born did you look into his eyes and say hes going to be killed by the cops at age 31 for his mistakes. even the most wanted criminal has a family that will grieve…. no matter who is at fault……have some respect, weve all made mistakes. he is not here to defend himself so be happy on your own you wouldnt want to someday have to read this about your child.

  13. IamTheBreeze
    August 5, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    I understand standing behind ones family but get a grip on reality. It was a family member that actually reported this guy was acting violently and possibly on drugs. Then he assaults the off duty cop. The chain of events led to his death. There is a time when one suffers the consequences of one’s actions. Doesn’t sound like a model citizen to me. S h i t happens and this dude’s time was up and brought on by his own actions. There are some crazy mofos out there and they are sometimes nice but often times not. There are consequences in life. Actions have reactions. The outcome favored the good guys this time. Sorry but it is what it is.

    • amy
      August 5, 2012 at 5:44 pm

      Well said!

      • m.e.
        August 5, 2012 at 11:32 pm

        Regardless, as you said a family member called them to HELP not to KILL him, they could have injured him in his legs in his arm, else where, not fair honestly not fair.

        • Jason
          August 6, 2012 at 9:04 am

          When someone has a gun and is getting ready to fire it at you, are you going to try for one in a thousand shot(arm,leg) or are you going to go for the guaranteed shot(center mass)? The arm and leg shot is a fairy tell perpetuated by film and media. Theres a reason law enforcement and military are trained to shoot center mass.

          • lupita
            September 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm


        • IamTheBreeze
          August 6, 2012 at 3:34 pm

          Yeah and they could have also shot him in the face/head and really made a mess? I’m pretty sure the family didn’t intend for it to end this way but a loose canon like this is unpredictable as proven in this incident and the outcome was not in his favor. Sorry but the outcome according to the chain of events that occurred is really no shocking surprise. I mean think about it for a minute. The blame lies nowhere on the deputies.

        • Yo Mama
          August 6, 2012 at 5:15 pm

          What Jason and The Breeze are trying to say – in a nice way – is: YOU’RE AN IDIOT!!! And, yes, a very fair comment. You move, too. Go…

        • amy
          August 6, 2012 at 5:31 pm

          Really? LOL You want the LASD to shoot him in the arm/leg when he’s willing to shoot the officer in the head/chest.

          Are you on drugs????

          • Gabriela
            August 6, 2012 at 6:10 pm

            I just hope all of you saw what really happened that you are certain of what is said is true, Did you know him? Just have some respect for our loss i just hope that all of you guys are perfect as you think you are.

          • IamTheBreeze
            August 6, 2012 at 8:08 pm

            Okay. I’ll bite. “What really happened” then?

  14. Fred Gispachio
    August 5, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Maybe if blacks and hispanics didn’t pull the race card at every opportunity, your claims of racism would be more believeable. Why is it that most of the trash around here ruining our community is black and hispanic? Has nothing to do with racism! Why don’t you black and hispanic communities lift eachother up out of this lifestyle, instead of blame LASD for being racist? Naa its way easier to just stay a piece of [removed] and point your finger at the “racists”. Almost every story on this website is a black or hispanic raising hell, so why am I racist? Pulling the race card is played out and overused. Not effective and makes you “card pullers’ completely irrelevant to this conversation. Not that you’d understand what I just said…Whether or not Javier was a good guy, his mama should have done better. Running from the cops is not a proclamation of innocence!

    • August 5, 2012 at 10:33 am

      Honestly this is so stupid to comment !!! if you dont know he has ah family this has nothing to do with black Mexican ? nothing! and all people are equal whites Chinese ?… Theirs lots of people that are different color but do the same thing so shut up with the black mexican… its bull[removed]

    • August 5, 2012 at 10:33 am

      Honestly this is so stupid to comment !!! if you dont know he has ah family this has nothing to do with black Mexican ? nothing! and all people are equal whites Chinese ?… Theirs lots of people that are different color but do the same thing so shut up with the black mexican… its bull[removed]

    • Lili
      August 6, 2012 at 10:16 am

      No one is pulling the race card, and im sorry but the only piece of [removed] here is you, some one who doesnt know how to respect others is worthless, and who are you to judge others, and no you werent there my family members were and saw everything so if you do not know what happened and dnt know who he was please keep ur opinion to urself and you know what i really hope that you never have to go thrue something like this because then you will have another piece of [removed] person like you commenting the same thing you did, And i hope this never happens to ur son, to ur brother, to ur nephew to anyone in ur family because no one deserves to die like that and you bet ur ass that it will all clear up and we wont let trash like you dirty my cousins name.

  15. anonymous
    August 5, 2012 at 8:50 am

    I am Javier’s cousin. I am 12 years old and everything the police is saying is a [removed] lie. I knew my cousin very well and he has always been a GREAT person.The police better stop making so much lies. I know what happened. The police just want to blame everything on my poor cousin. He was and will always be in my heart. I would make my parents drive 36-48 hours just so I can see him and his family. R.I.P Javier <3

    • caliraised
      August 5, 2012 at 9:13 am

      These racist people don’t know anything. The police made up that [removed] make believe story. He was working at the time. Shot in front of his own father and aunt. There are witnesses people where there. So shut your [removed] mouth and mind your business. He was working at his own car business at the time. [removed] you to all the deputies and/or sheriffs involved in this murder. You [removed] liars!!! I will not post anything anymore I will not give these white trash the pleasure any longer…

      • Melvin
        August 5, 2012 at 10:05 am

        Awe, leaving the website? Que lastima y adios stupido.

      • Abe
        August 5, 2012 at 10:40 am

        Muchos gracias for vamosing outta here. Bueno riddance loser.

      • Jason
        August 5, 2012 at 1:31 pm

        Cali if is he was working at his business at the time why are all the photos of a residential neighborhood?

      • ydoucare
        August 6, 2012 at 11:41 am

        That is actually true. I dont care if you believe the police or not. He was shot in front of my aunt. I hate the police right now. They destroyed my family and their happiness. If you could see how they are because of my cousin’s death you would understand everything. If you dont believe you all are morons!

    • Jason
      August 5, 2012 at 1:30 pm

      And what happens if it comes out that your cousin actually had the deputies gun and fired it?

      • Gabriela
        August 6, 2012 at 6:14 pm

        If that’s the case so be it but really two officers shooting at him even when they know he’s dead??? even though hes father is beggin them to stop. We are not saying he was perfect but hw was a great guy. Just please have some respect for our loss.

        • jason
          August 6, 2012 at 6:43 pm

          If someone has a gun and is firing at you and you are capable of returning fire , you make sure they are no longer a threat to you.

    • Ofcr. Carlos
      August 6, 2012 at 5:44 pm

      What a surprise…another ‘primo’ pops up.

  16. Rocio
    August 5, 2012 at 1:37 am

    Swear everyone that is talking [removed] about him need to shut the [removed] !!! Have some [removed] respects to MY friends family ! Only he knows why he did what he did ! It happened already get over it & stay out of it ! If you have nothing nice to put , don’t bother commenting at all ! You’re all so immature knowing how his family is hurt and you still have the guys to say rude stuff about him ! R.I.P Javier Ortiz <3

    • Rocio
      August 5, 2012 at 1:39 am

      *Up, Guts

  17. El Manager
    August 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    This goes out to caliraised and Maricela Perez, ignorance is bliss, and regardless of the circumstances, you are right, until this is all sorted out we really won’t know what happened. No one here knew Javier, and has no right to pass judgement. Don’t give this forum fodder for them to keep disparaging Javier, and don’t get upset at their comments, “hacerle caso a tontos es engrandecerlos” (paying attention to the dumb just elevates their egos. My heartfelt sympathies to his parents and his siblings who are directly being affected by this and who by no fault of their own will not likely being dragged through the muck and raked over the coals.

    • m.e.
      August 5, 2012 at 11:42 pm

      Thank you finally a good comment…. nice to read God Bless his family and you for the compassion you showed on you comment.

  18. really
    August 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    To all the people that say show some respect, get a clue! Your family member made a series of poor choices that cost him his life! He is not a victim, he screwed up and his actions had deadly consequences. Almost every human being has redeeming qualities but that doesnt excuse his actions. What was so great about him? What did he contribute to society? How many times had he been arrested? Was he a drug user? Was he a gang member? Was he the CEO of a company? What made him so great that he is exempt from being held accountable for his actions? I dont have hate towards your family member but I also have no sympathy. He screwed up, end of story!

    • Gabriela
      August 6, 2012 at 6:17 pm

      To start he was not a gang member, to cotinue he was a loving father of two little girls loved his family and friends. He helped his dad at the Alternator shop they have here in Palmdale do the research first then comment PLEASE!

  19. caliraised
    August 4, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    RIP Javier
    We who knew you know what a great person you were.
    Just like everyone knows what a bunch of corrupts the LAPD is.
    The End….

    • mike
      August 5, 2012 at 4:24 pm

      Its not LAPD… It would be LACO Sheriffs Dept. Thank God for our police and the thankless work they perform keeping us safe from the scum that have taken over this valley.

    • Yo Mama
      August 6, 2012 at 5:28 pm

      How do you feel about the Sheriff Dept. of LA county? Never mind. Pack your things and moooooooove awaaaaaay from here. You’re not very bright. Bye…

  20. Getreal
    August 4, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    I wish a speedy recovery to the Deputy who broke his hand. Thank you LASD for doing what needs to be done everyday and for protecting even the people that hate you. There are still citizens that respect and care for you.

  21. JenniferAguirre
    August 4, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Why dont you all learn to respect a family’s loss. Stop being so damm ignorant about your so called”sherrifs and police men”. With all respect if you weren’t a witness or don’t know the person personally don’t start judging and leaving you unappreciated comments.thank you! Some of us are suffering because we lost a loved one that was not a threath to society but a good indivisual and human that did nothing wrong.If the cop would of really gotten hurt or his gun was taken away why didnt a testimony about him and a picture of him or his injured hand come out.

    • really
      August 4, 2012 at 11:01 pm

      Because the cops dont have to prove to you that a hand was broken. Do you really expect law enforcement to try everything that happens in the media. And furthermore if you seriously believe the local cops fabricated the story and shot a guy for no reason then you are moving tommorrow right. I mean who would live in an area like that…

    • Chance
      August 25, 2012 at 1:48 am

      Ahaa shut up! I know the officer & his hand is broken just like this “innocent man” who Is a father of two “didn’t” commit a crime;& randomly got shot. Come one wake up! His wasn’t a random shooting.. My heart goes out to the family cuz a loss is painful non the less but he did what he had to

  22. manny
    August 4, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Mmm. That’s weird WE just heard 4 gun shots standing less then 100ft…. were not blind SGIP.!!!! Can someone explain that.??

    • Abe
      August 4, 2012 at 5:46 pm

      What does “were not blind SGIP” mean?

  23. Castro
    August 4, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    please have respect for the deceased and his family.

  24. Diana_diaz
    August 4, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Please have some respect for my family member Javier, Keep all your rude comments to yourself.! I get it you guys are like “yay police” but really come on now put yourself and our position what if that was your family member and now mine.

    • Diana_diaz
      August 4, 2012 at 3:44 pm


      • Coyote
        August 5, 2012 at 9:27 am

        Sooo,,,,why did your family call the Sheriff Station and say that Javier was violent and on drugs?

        • amy
          August 5, 2012 at 5:25 pm

          Touche, Coyote! Well said…

        • m.e.
          August 5, 2012 at 11:46 pm

          to HELP, maybe arrest him, but not to KILL him… if the families would have know that they were going to over kill him, probably they would have not called.

          • Abe
            August 6, 2012 at 10:36 am

            The deputies didn’t respond to the call planning to kill cousin Javier. Looks like he made that choice, moron.

  25. ed
    August 4, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Round up the Usual Suspects. This is beginning to sound like the 1942 Movie Casablanca. In the A.V.Press there is a picture of 9 uniformed officers standing around the incident. One even has a smile on his face. The first story is, he had a pipe and was assaulting an off duty LAPD Officer and his girl friend. Witnesses claim they heard a shot then another said he/she saw officers running after the suspect. Then we get more news from the A.V.Times. The perps name and the news that he took an officers gun away from him and shot rounds up in the air? Which was responded by a killing? And AV Crier says this was a good shoot?
    I say don’t panic. Lets let the Sheriffs Department do what we pay them for. When all the facts come out then make your congratulations, complaints and snide remarks. Right now; have some respect for the family of the deceased. The officers will need all our help later on.

  26. August 4, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    wow i just hope that none of ur family members ever go through this where they are killed by cops that take advantage of there athourity… i just really hope for all u guys that are talking [removed] and happy with what happened go through this to see if u would talk all the [removed] your talking and be happy about it if it happened to your family member!!

    • caliraised
      August 4, 2012 at 2:26 pm


    • fred mertz
      August 4, 2012 at 2:46 pm

      What a piece of cr– you are. I can only hope you get victimized and no cops come to help.

    • m.e.
      August 4, 2012 at 3:08 pm

      I ask God to forgive all of the people that made these nasty comments without knowing the person, because i can sense the hate in their words the suspect had a name and his name was JAVIER is not and it, and is not a worthless individual, to somebody he was definitely important, I hope when your judgment day comes God made have mercy on you inner black thoughts. I hope God gives strength to his family to endure their tremendous loss.

      • amy
        August 5, 2012 at 5:29 pm

        yes, his name was JAVIER and he was a violent druggie.

        • m.e.
          August 5, 2012 at 11:25 pm

          Amy did you knew him personally for you to make that statement???? have respect for his family. is that to much to ask????

  27. John
    August 4, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Cops Killed him.. They took him behind a vacant house..ruffed him up and in an attempt to defent himself..he broke a cops hand.. which resulted in the cop firing a couple shot in the air then a few in the victims chest…I’ve been living here in Palmdale my whole life..and the Sheriff here go around F’ing with people just waiting to get a reaction so they can “Do their Job” So dont let them fool you. You cant trust them more than the Bad people their supposed to be after.

    • August 4, 2012 at 12:37 pm

      Your theory is possible. people forget police officers are humans .meaning they are capable of lying and manipulation just like anyone else.Also the victim was an off duty cop. I cqn believe they were going to beqt him up before taking him into custody .

      • Sammy
        August 4, 2012 at 1:10 pm

        Welcome to YOUR police state. You are nothing more than chattel. There to be herded, milked, and occasionally butchered!

    • Palmdale_Steve
      August 4, 2012 at 2:03 pm

      “Soylent Green is people!”

    • caliraised
      August 4, 2012 at 2:29 pm

      You are right!!!

    • Jason
      August 4, 2012 at 2:50 pm

      So what you are saying then is you were there and saw all this happen? And since you were Im sure you broke out your camera and recorded all this and youll have the video posted soon.

    • Melvin
      August 4, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      You third world brown types that live east of Division Street make me sick. The cops are all corrupt killers of innocent people; what a load of bovine feces. You want corruption? Move to that sewer south of our border and see what corruption is really like; you’d be back here in a New York minute. Our sheriffs do a thankless job trying to reduce crime, and all they get is being accused of being racists and killers. Get real and get a life. Long live the LASD.

      • Bruce
        August 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm

        Hey Melvin…Did you ever consider that the shooting victim had a family, and from all accounts was a nice person. Show some respect. I bet you’re a stupid gun toting homophobic loser. I bet if the guy was gay, you’d be even happier. Jerk.

        • Melvin
          August 4, 2012 at 9:05 pm

          Well B R U C E, as it’s been said: sticks and stones…. You know the rest, so stuff it!

          • caliraised
            August 4, 2012 at 10:31 pm

            Melvin is a racist JERK!!!!
            Why don’t you get the LASD to stuff it up your ass!!

          • Yup
            August 4, 2012 at 11:21 pm

            Wait, how did you get Racist out of his comments? Mexico is KNOWN for it’s corruption.

            Support the local Deputies is not racist.

            So once again, how do you get racist?

          • caliraised
            August 5, 2012 at 8:56 am

            So is LA’s law enforcement and also their racism.
            Chinga tu pinche puta madre que te trago a este mundo.
            Pinche descoloridos aguados y guangos jotos.
            Tienen radon no voy a seguir perdiendo mi tiempo con esta basura. Lmao…..
            We will keep multiplying and happily at your expense. So you keep being our bitch….

          • Abe
            August 5, 2012 at 9:47 am

            Let’s make English the official language of the AV Times. Spanish is muy no bueno, si?

          • DerpDerpDerp
            August 5, 2012 at 8:12 pm

            I love how Cali proves to be the racist when asked how I am racist. Genius!

          • Melvin
            August 5, 2012 at 6:17 am

            There you go, confusing FACTism with racism. Some folks just like to wallow in denial.

          • caliraised
            August 5, 2012 at 8:48 am

            Who’s FACTism? A bunch of rednecks? Huh Bubba?
            Idiot country hick…..

          • Sammy
            August 5, 2012 at 10:20 am
          • Melvin
            August 5, 2012 at 10:49 am

            Bubba?, Idiot country hick? Wrong again cholo. BTW, loved your comment about multiplying. Just what the barrio needs, more canon fodder for when the homies kill other homies in cowardly drive-bys, and ambushes. The sheriffs are cub scouts when it comes to homie on homie killings.

  28. Alma Ubaldo
    August 4, 2012 at 10:35 am

    To all those with rude comments i hope and pray nothing ever happens to your son or daughter like this. Yes a mistake may have been made no one will know the true story except for this man and those police officers. But at the end of the day he was a son a father a brother a friend and the lives of these people are changed forever. You should all be ashamed of your selves for smiling upon a tragedy …

    • Yup
      August 4, 2012 at 11:11 am

      One man’s loss is another man’s gain. I’d prefer if this man was treated in some way first, but it does seem like this man was willing to put other peoples lives at risk. We are happy when we are able to remove problem people out of society.

      • caliraised
        August 4, 2012 at 2:16 pm

        Your an idiot. You obviously would make a gain on us if that where you.

        • Yup
          August 4, 2012 at 2:37 pm

          Well, judging by your grammar and sentence structure I highly doubt you give anything to society other than attitude.

          I recommend you read my comment above again, I simply stated that people are happy when people that are problems are removed out of society. It seems you prefer problem people be able to continue being a problem within society.

          • Castro
            August 4, 2012 at 3:52 pm

            My cousin wasn’t a problem now please keep your mouth shut.

          • August 4, 2012 at 3:57 pm

            Well you do not know what happen and your mouth needs to be shut.
            Are you a mother?Family member?
            no how would you feel.?and espicially with all these stupid poeple commenting CRAP.

          • Yup
            August 4, 2012 at 4:39 pm

            Did you see it happen? If not than HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? How do you know the officers are not telling the truth? Is it because it’s familia?

          • Melvin
            August 5, 2012 at 11:31 am

            Amazing how many “cousins” come out of the woodwork to say what a swell guy Javier was; wouldn’t hurt a fly.

    • Abe
      August 4, 2012 at 12:20 pm

      Give me a break. Anybody who makes the “mistake” of taking a deputy’s gun, and shooting it, gets what he deserves.

      • August 4, 2012 at 12:38 pm

        Unfortunately only one s

      • caliraised
        August 4, 2012 at 2:18 pm

        Nobody knows for sure that’s the truth. Where you there? No didn’t think so don’t assume the LAPD is telling the truth.

        • Yup
          August 4, 2012 at 2:39 pm

          Well, showing how ignorant you truly are, this was NOT an LAPD shooting. Los Angeles Police Department is different than the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

          Please take some remedial English courses at your nearest Community College, or adult learning center.

          • Gaby
            August 4, 2012 at 5:16 pm

            Look all of you that r making comments wait for the outcome of all this. Javier wad a good person not perfect but a great friend I find all this story of him assaulting a couple because all of us that knew him know the good guy he was inly god knows the truth and if it was a missundersranding we’ll find out. Right know I just wish you have some respect.. If you know what that is.

          • August 4, 2012 at 6:00 pm

            Congratulations Yup! You write well. You recieved and eduacation. Stop attacking people personally and discounting their opinions soley based upon their grammer or word usage. No one knows everything . You are ignorant in some subject. Grow up you bully.

          • caliraised
            August 4, 2012 at 10:50 pm

            You lonely loser….
            I will write however I want to. You motherless asshole.

          • Yup
            August 4, 2012 at 11:46 pm

            Yes, the epitome of maturity right there with caliraised. Hopefully you and your uncouth and criminal brethren leave this state before you turn it into a cesspool of stupidity and crime.

            “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.” I been sayin’ that [removed] for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a mother[removed] before you popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some [removed] this mornin’ made me think twice. Now I’m thinkin’: it could mean you’re the evil man. And I’m the righteous man. And Mr. .45 here, he’s the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you’re the righteous man and I’m the shepherd and it’s the world that’s evil and selfish. I’d like that. But that [removed] ain’t the truth. The truth is you’re the weak. And I’m the tyranny of evil men. But I’m tryin, Ringo. I’m tryin’ real hard to be the shepherd.”

        • Melvin Jones
          August 4, 2012 at 2:41 pm

          That’s LASD, genius….as in Sheriff’s Dept. LAPD is in the city of Los Angeles.

        • Abe
          August 4, 2012 at 3:12 pm

          Typical moronic response…totally out of touch….”LAPD”.

        • Yo Mama
          August 6, 2012 at 6:02 pm

          I’d like to personally buy you dinner before you go back to jail when I’ll be buyin you dinner every night. Then I can put a face with my tax dollar. You’ll know then that it’s LA-S-D when they feed you my dinner. Bright Guy. Meanwhile, how bout Carl’s Jr.?

      • August 4, 2012 at 3:54 pm

        Hey and anyone who opens theire mouth wihtout knowiwng anithing gets a punch in the face.:)
        i wish i was there to do that too you.
        You desrve it too.ANd oyu get what you deserve.

        • Yup
          August 4, 2012 at 4:34 pm

          I love how you leave threats on a public message board. I hope you do assault someone so we can send your low life ass to where it belongs as well.

          • August 4, 2012 at 10:21 pm

            yup i hope you see this,,, yo se lo que dices y muchos hispanos no tenemos mucha educacion pero si tenemos mucho corazon, y esto que paso no se lo deseamos a nadie ni maricela lo quiere pero cuando atacan a alguien de tu familia dices cosas con coraje que no son buenas y no se lo deceamos a nadie que dios te BENDIGA Y A NUESTRA FAMILIA FUERZA PARA PASAR ESTA DURA PENA.

          • Yup
            August 4, 2012 at 11:26 pm

            Holy Senora de Guadalupe, their Spanish is as bad as their English.

        • really
          August 5, 2012 at 9:25 pm

          Yes people get what they deserve, kinda like your friend…

    • Nacho
      August 4, 2012 at 12:37 pm

      That way he learns. He attacked people with pips, and then he removed a deputy’s gun so he was obviously trying to kill people. That makes him a violent murderous POS. He got what he deserves. Hope he rots in Hell.

      • Shawn Rone
        August 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm

        Who says what is printed in the article is true? Do not believe everything that is pinted. The reason Cops are able to get away with so much corruption is because no one questions things. I have no idea what happened Maybe what the officers said is true, but and outside agency should investigate. The FBI should investigate not the DA office.

        • caliraised
          August 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm

          And you will rot in hell also with your ugly thoughts….

          • Yup
            August 4, 2012 at 2:41 pm

            Wait, so he deserves to rot in hell for saying rot in hell, so I guess that means you will rot in hell for saying rot in hell by your own logic. Genius on our hands right here with Caliraised.

          • caliraised
            August 4, 2012 at 10:37 pm

            Yup, You will rot in hell as well.
            I hope my grammar was better for you this time.
            You ignorant dumb ass.

          • Yup
            August 4, 2012 at 11:40 pm

            Nope, not better at all.

            Let’s open a dialog here, why am I an “ignorant dumb ass” as you put it uncouthly?

            Why shall I rot in hell?

          • Abe
            August 5, 2012 at 11:16 pm

            May I through in a “rot in hell” just to be included in the group that will rot in hell?

          • Abe
            August 5, 2012 at 11:20 pm

            Too much beer. “throw”. Dammit.

      • Yep
        August 4, 2012 at 5:05 pm

        Maybe he should have been like Rodney King and just lay there and let the cops beat the [removed] out of him. Those cops hate blacks and hispanics. Hope forensics show the man had gun powder on his hands or prints on the gun. Still, the cops had time to put the gun in his hand. And a off duty cop who can’t protect himself and his girl? Seem like the off duty cops are busier the the ones on the job.

  29. AV Town Crier
    August 4, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Based on my experience it was a good (and well deserved, I might add) shooting. But, I’m sure his family will sue the county claiming their son would never do such a thing and it was the deputies fault for starting it.

    Though I’m also sure that Internal Affairs will put that deputy, who’s gun was misappropriated during the scuffle, through the mill. Losing one’s gun is a cardinal sin in law enforcement.

    I’m NOT saying it was, in fact, the deputy’s fault, there was a pursuit and the deputy , no doubt, did NOT draw his weapon, which means he did NOT plan to shoot the suspect.

    We’ll just have to see how this plays out. But, I score this one in favor of law enforcement. No foul call on this one. Justice has been served and the community can breath a sigh of relief.

    • caliraised
      August 4, 2012 at 2:23 pm

      No one knows if he drew his gun or not….

    • August 4, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      Stupid ignorant people.
      YOU DO not know what really happend.So shut your mouth.
      He was my cousin and were going trough a hard time especially his parents.
      What if your son was killed what would you do?

      • amy
        August 5, 2012 at 5:35 pm

        So if he was such an outstanding individual, WHY then did you call the cops on him Do prey tell…

  30. FUNNY
    August 4, 2012 at 8:48 am

    What a nice story i just love it when they Die and we the tax payers wont have to support one more loser in jail,

    • caliraised
      August 4, 2012 at 2:21 pm

      We love it when y’all die too!! We love it!!! Hopefully you will soon!

    • August 4, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      Hey you dont know what me and my famillly are going trough.
      Get a life please and i hope you have a painfull life form now on and suffer.

    • Gaby
      August 4, 2012 at 5:21 pm

      Look you idiot he was a hard working guy he’s dad and him ran a bussiness of alternators in palmdale you [removed] stupid if you dont know I suggest you keep your comments to your self. Just remember theres a god and thats all I could say to you.

  31. jeff
    August 4, 2012 at 8:29 am

    looks like he was a hispanic male not a black male which is good so hopefully jesse jackson wont get involved and it will be a huge ordeal…

  32. Palmdale_Steve
    August 4, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Time for the AV Merchants of Racism to call a news conference deploring the actions of the “man” in repressing the thug class in the AV.

  33. lucas
    August 4, 2012 at 7:42 am


  34. Abe
    August 4, 2012 at 7:41 am

    Finally a great story, with a happy ending.

    • Melvin
      August 4, 2012 at 10:33 am

      Yes, it always makes me happy to hear that another bad hombre has met his maker.

    • August 4, 2012 at 3:45 pm

      First of all shut your face.
      How do you know what the family is going trough?And as always officers are human so they lied about it and made a big deal about it.
      You need to get a life seriously.He was my cousin and all this crap on here aint true.Were you there?no i dont think so.
      Get your facts straight and i hope you shove all those words right up your mouth or i will.:)

      • Yup
        August 4, 2012 at 4:37 pm

        That is two threats on a message board. If you do assault someone it can be grounds for a warrant to find out whether you did truly make the comments on here as well. Computers leave trails, as do smart phones. You will probably be the next to be rolled up by the Deputies, if you try to grab an officers gun, chances are you will be shot as well. I guess it runs in the family.

        • caliraised
          August 4, 2012 at 10:41 pm

          I hope you die!! Yup come find me bitch. :)

          • Yup
            August 4, 2012 at 11:29 pm

            Real mature attitude right there. No one will take you seriously with an attitude like that. You are probably the kind of idiot banger who loads the wrong caliber round into their weapon. You are more likely a threat to yourself than anyone else.

      • amy
        August 5, 2012 at 5:39 pm

        Threats coming from the same family? No, can’t be! The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree…

  35. Quartz Hill Resident
    August 4, 2012 at 7:05 am

    Thanks to the deputies TRYING to make the AV a safe place. Their jobs won’t be too bad if we did not have all the Section 8s.

    • t.s
      August 7, 2012 at 2:50 pm

      section 8 has nothing to do with it people need to stop blaming it on section 8 and blame it on the police officers they need to stop being so dam racist and think there god cause only god can judge and decide on who lives and who dies

      • abe
        August 7, 2012 at 3:12 pm

        In situations like these, it’s the SUSPECT who determines who lives or dies. The cops are just reacting and trying to protect themselves and the innocent public. Right-on LASD!!! PS: It’s “think THEY’RE God”…..might want to get some English tutoring.

        • t.s
          August 7, 2012 at 3:54 pm

          Dumb ass i kno how to spell and have exellent grammer welcome to 2012 bixxh u need to be up to date on ur texting skills old motherfuxxer

          • t.s
            August 7, 2012 at 3:56 pm

            Fyi i was born in califorina u red neck [removed]

          • What?
            August 7, 2012 at 4:44 pm

            racist much?

          • s
            August 7, 2012 at 9:38 pm

            Grow the fxxk up and stop talking shxt bout my english and worry bout ur own life which I’m sure isn’t I mean ain’t shxt

          • t.s
            August 8, 2012 at 4:32 pm

            Yes against stupid people

          • vodkadrinker
            August 7, 2012 at 4:12 pm

            You left out a period between “grammar” and “welcome”. TTFN loser.

          • t.s
            August 7, 2012 at 4:22 pm

            Stupid ass i kno wtf i put i dont got to correct any of my grammer that i choose and im writing get alife and stop worrying bout my grammer u red neck bixxh

          • abe
            August 7, 2012 at 4:28 pm

            You need a space between “a” and “life”. “Alife” is not even an acceptable term in the texting world. PS- I’m black, so I don’t qualify as a red neck bixxh.

          • What?
            August 7, 2012 at 4:43 pm

            Texting is NOT proper English and don’t even try to legitimize it or tell people to “get up to date” on it. Wrong! You should have paid more attention in your English classes instead of being a jackass and making a fool of yourself!

          • sm
            August 7, 2012 at 9:29 pm


          • s
            August 7, 2012 at 9:43 pm

            Yes they are! They are some grown ass ,men who ain’t. [removed]

          • t.s
            August 7, 2012 at 9:47 pm

            How you like them apples bixxh. Btw I put the comma there perposely ……..

          • abe
            August 7, 2012 at 9:49 pm

            Why the period after “JOB”? Totally wrong. And, while I’m at it, why a comma and space after “ass”?….and a period after ain’t. Is English your second language?

  36. v.gh
    August 4, 2012 at 6:44 am


    • August 4, 2012 at 3:49 pm

      HOLD UPP!
      what if you were the one victim and got shot by the cops?
      How do you now what his family is going trough just so you know he was my cousin and there is way more worser poeple out there then him.
      would you have liked it if i had said “thank you for killing him”
      Idiot get a life and shut your mouth when you dont know anithing.

      • t.s
        August 7, 2012 at 2:43 pm

        Sorry for ur loss people need to get a life have have some damm respect

    • amanda from palmdale
      August 4, 2012 at 11:26 pm

      what is an off duty officer doing in a known drug infested area…

    • santana
      August 4, 2012 at 11:40 pm

      wtf does stanridge have to do with this man that lost his life…..

    • t.s
      August 7, 2012 at 2:41 pm

      No one said anything bout stanridge do you live on stanridge probably not cops are always harrasing someone including my 50 year old mother who never even had a curfew ticket [removed] the cops there never there wen someone really needs them

      • t.s
        August 7, 2012 at 10:00 pm

        Anyone else wanna say suminbout my grammer cause if u do grow up and take that shit somewhere else have. Some respect for javier. End of discussion. Peace

        • Hector
          August 7, 2012 at 10:03 pm

          Yeah, I think it sux bro. Why the “have”. Peace out.

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